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Sunday, 7 June 2026

More fantasising on the Altar Stone

Suggested area (pink) across which Late Devensian erratics from northern Scotland might have been distributed. The map also shows the "footprint" of the Anglian glaciation, during which ORS erratics might have been carried even further southwards.

A very strange article has just been published, in the very respectable JQS journal which normally steers well clear of fantasies and speculations.  I'm rather surprised that it was accepted for publication, since it contains virtually no new data and builds yet more speculation onto an already very speculative narrative. In short, the article is filled with assumptions built on uncertainties, and the media coverage of it is completely bonkers.  Not surprisingly, some journalists flag up the "glacial transport" side of the story as an exciting discovery, while others claim that the human transport hypothesis is now proved.  Like the JQS article, it's all a bit of a mess.........

Here is the press release from Curtin University in Australia:
https://www.curtin.edu.au/news/media-release/study-details-epic-transportation-of-stonehenge-stone-across-ancient-britain/

The article:

Clarke, A. J. I., Veness, R. L. J., Kirkland, C. L., Clark, C. D., Gandy, N., Emery, A. et al. (2026) From Highlands to Henge: Refining the Provenance and Transport Pathways of Stonehenge's Altar Stone. Journal of Quaternary Science, 1–8. https://doi.org/10.1002/jqs.70080

 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1002/jqs.70080

ABSTRACT:

The Altar Stone, the 6000 kg central sandstone megalith at Stonehenge in southern England, is suggested to have originated from the Orcadian Basin in northeast Scotland, some 700 km away. However, its source location within this large basin remains unresolved and its mode of transport uncertain. Proposed mechanisms include Neolithic human transport via marine or overland routes or southward movement as a glacial erratic. Here, we combine sandstone provenance analysis with ice flow modelling to constrain potential sources and transport pathways. Ice sheet reconstructions show that southward transport vectors from northeast Scotland were highly localised, making precise source determination critical to evaluating glacial erratic transport plausibility. Candidate source areas farther south within the Orcadian Basin are more compatible with southward glacial dispersal, but show weaker correspondence with the detrital zircon age spectra that characterise the Altar Stone. By contrast, sandstones from Caithness on the mainland of northeast Scotland provide the closest match in zircon age structure; yet, modelled glacial transport from this region is predominantly towards the north‐east, with a localised south‐eastward pathway directed towards Dogger Bank. Glacial dispersal to Dogger Bank would reduce the anthropogenic transport distance required to Stonehenge from 700 km to 400 km. However, such a model raises an additional temporal problem, as Dogger Bank was inundated by post‐glacial sea‐level rise before the Altar Stone likely arrived at Stonehenge. Glacial transport may have provided an intermediate stage in the stone's journey, but alone cannot account for the final emplacement on Salisbury Plain. Even under a glacially assisted scenario, substantial anthropogenic transport would have remained necessary.

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Right from the outset there is bias that should have been picked up by the referees. In their introductory paragraph the authors refer to "three lithologies" in the "building block" collection at Stonehenge, specifically creating a seperate category for the Altar Stone.  Ixer and Bevins, for reasons that are not difficult to discern, decided not so long ago that the Altar Stone should no longer be referred to as a "bluestone" but should be dignified by the creation of a new rock category.  There is no earth science logic to that, since the bluestones (of all shapes and sizes) found in the Stonehenge landscape do not all come from Mynydd Preseli, and the Altar Stone is not the only sandstone.  If we look at the sarsens and the erratic bluestones around Stonehenge, there are scores of lithologies represented, and ORS sandstone is just one of them.

This labelling device, right at the beginning of the article simply flags up the authors' specific intention to demonstrate that the Altar Stone was not just special or sacred, but that it was even more sacred than the bluestones.

In mentioning that Parker Pearson's Waun Mawn "lost bluestone circle" has been criticised, they cite Darvill (2022) who refuted the hypothesis on archaeological grounds, but they fail to cite my much more comprehensive 2024 criticism and dismissal (in the "Holocene" journal) of the MPP narrative on earth science grounds.  One might have expected an acknowledgement of this in an article published in JQS..............

In referring to monolith transport, the authors refer to the glacial theory, but say "recent detrital zircon–apatite fingerprinting of Salisbury Plain river sediment found no evidence that glacial processes delivered the bluestones to southern England (Clarke and Kirkland, 2026)".  It would have been more honest for the lead authors to state that their own zircon study is deeply defective, since the findings are based on just four river sand samples (accepted as valid without any refence to sampling procedures) and a lack of any control studies.  This and other defects were discussed in another post on this blog:

We have similar problems with the other key samples used by Clarke and others in their studies of the Altar Stone.  All 4 of them -- from Stonehenge, Orkney and Caithness -- are surrogate samples, not collected by the authors during fieldwork but taken from second hand sources:

ALTAR STONE
1 National Museum of Wales ( assumed to have been excavated Hawley in the 1920s)
2 Salisbury Museum (assumed to have been collected from the underside of the Altar Stone in 1844)

ORCADIAN BASIN SAMPLES
Two Old Red Sandstone rock samples from the Orcadian Basin, bought from Natural Wonders Ltd, Whitby:
1 Cruaday, Orkney
2 near Spittal, Caithness

The Altar Stone samples are simply assumed to be truly representative of the Altar Stone itself -- but if that attribution is faulty, then this article, like several others, becomes nonsensical.  Given this fundamental research defect, why on earth did not one or another of the authors actually pop up north for a few days with a geological hammer and collect some proper, fully authenticated, rock samples?

Anyway, on a more positive note I welcome and agree with the paragraph on erratic transport routes and with the point that glacial erratics take thousands of years to be transported within the ice, during which ice flow vectors can shift in direction.

Quote:
This motivated us to model trajectories of glacial erratics, accounting for such shifting flow vectors over time to yield predictions of transport routes and distance. A complicating factor is that the Orcadian Basin sat near the ice sheet's north–south ice drainage divide (>1 km thick at times). Small movements (tens of kilometres) of this ice divide, as the ice sheet fluctuated, could have transported boulders in a multitude of directions. An investigation of the possible time-integrated flow routes is thus warranted to explore the plausibility of southward transport as an erratic. The key here is that rather than considering a single ice transport vector, we now examine if the Altar Stone could have first been transported in one direction and later in another as ice flow directions shifted. Could such multistage ice transport have carried the Altar Stone closer to Salisbury Plain? Given the complexity of ice flow directions in the region, refining likely locations of the source area is crucial to exploring this time-integrated ice flow analysis of possible erratic pathways.

This is fine, and could also, of course,  be applied to the west coast of Scotland in our attempts to discover how erratics apparently from the Western Isles might have been transported to the coasts of the Bristol Channel.  Indeed, I have already cited another article by Veness and others in a recent post about Scottish erratic trails.


In the discussion of "detrital zircon data sets" from the Orcadian basin and elsewhere, the authors present no new fieldwork and no new samples.  They depend entirely on the published work of other authors, and their conclusions are therefore based on pre-selected data sets, with a vast expanse of ORS sandstone territory unsampled and effectively ignored.  This represents yet another powerful bias in the work.

On the matter or erratic trains, the authors suggest -- in line with BRITICE and other modelling work -- that erratics derived from Caithness and Orkney are unlikely to have found their way to the Dogger Bank during the Late Devensian Glaciation (LGM), but that they might have travelled south if they had previously been emplaced by eastward-flowing ice in (for example) the Wolstonian or Anglian Glaciation and then later entrained by a southward flowing ice stream.  On the other hand ORS erratics from New Aberdour or the Inverness area could well have been entrained on the south side of an ice shed and transported southwards to the Dogger Bank.    In other words, the modelling work suggests that the Inverness and New Aberdour areas are more likely to have provided Dogger bank erratics than outcrops in Caithness or Orkney.  I have no problem with any of that, except to say that other outcrops of ORS around the Midland Valley Basin were even more likely to have provided erratics for the southward-flowing ice stream in the North Sea. 

In the section of the article entitled "Human and ice transport?" the authors seem to lose touch with reality.  First, they accept that the Stonehenge landscape "lacks the detrital signature expected from direct glacial delivery of megalith-derived material from northeast Scotland".  They cite Clarke and Kirkland 2026, but (as mentioned above) they fail to appreciate that their conclusion is highly contentious, having been based on just four sand samples about which we know virtually nothing.  Clarke and Kirkland are joint authors of the article which we are scrutinizing.......... enough said.

 Then the authors embark on a series of speculations on "human agency" in the movement of the Altar Stone from Dogger Bank to Stonehenge which are so bizarre as to be embarrassing.  How this section got through the refereeing process, maybe we will never know........

They suggest that Dogger Bank might have been a "topographic high point in the landscape" which might have held some cultural significance for Palaeolithic or Mesolithic inhabitants. They then suggest that the Altar Stone, found as an erratic, must have been special or sacred enough to justify collection and transport towards Stonehenge via maritime and land-based pathways three thousand years before it was incorporated into the Stonehenge monument.  Talk about forward planning.........!!!

The idea of Dogger Island and its sacred stone -- seized upon, of course, by the media -- is so absurd that even our old friend MPP might be worried about it!  There is no evidence at all that Palaeolithic or Mesolithic tribesmen in the period 9,000 - 7,000 BP had either the desire or the capability to move a six-tonne slab of rock from one place to another in Doggerland or anywhere else.  As far as I am aware, there are no Palaeolithic of Mesolithic standing stones anywhere in Europe.  At the time of Dogger Island's final inundation, and indeed for millenia before that, this was a densely wooded landscape of rivers, lagoons, bogs, fens and marshes -- good hunting, fishing and gathering territory.  But I think we can safely dismiss the idea that the inhabitants knew that their island world was going to disappear, and that they planned and executed a move westwards for a large sacred stone while the going was good.  Of course the media love this sort of narrative, but it's completely bonkers.  

The "Dogger Bank scenario" involves "prolonged cultural significance or multiple-phase activity, across an exceptionally large temporal gap" -- but the authors also suggest that the boulder might have been moved south-westwards from the North Sea coast during the Anglian Glaciation and then dumped somewhere near the Chilterns ice edge.  This would have involved a relatively short "anthropogenic transport route" along the Berkshire Ridgeway towards Stonehenge.  In yet another scenario the authors suggest that the Altar Stone might have been ice-rafted through the Strait of Dover following one or another of the envisaged mega-floods, and then dumped somewhere on the south coast of England.  That's a remote possibility, but before taking it too seriously we need to know much more about pre-Devensian glacio-isostatic adjustments and sea-level changes.

In summary, this is a very strange article.  While I welcome the fact that some authors are at least taking the idea of long-distance glacial erratic transport seriously, the scenarios examined in the article all involve the human transport of a large bluestone monolith -- the Altar Stone.  I'm still highly sceptical about that, and I think that the authors here have accepted far too easily that the Altar Stone did indeed come from the far NE of Scotland.  I do not think that has been proved. 

Clarke and Kirkland have rushed into print far too early.  Their sampling and the use of surrogate samples suggests substantial bias.   If I am to be convinced by their provenancing, I would like to see the lead authors of this piece get out into the field, collecting samples from many ORS locations in various parts of Scotland, specifically for the testing of their hypothesis.  Once they have done that, and published their test results, I might be prepared to abandon my scepticism about the quality of their work.

See also Mike Pitts, who compounds the confusion:




Saturday, 31 August 2024

Yesterday: the Altar Stone came from Orkney. Today: the Altar Stone did not come from Orkney





Sampled locations (green dots) on Orkney.  The Ring of Brodgar and the Stenness standing stones lie within the green box.

You could not make it up.  Yet again, powerful bias and a wilful refusal to examine physical processes.

Yesterday, Bevins, Ixer, Pearce et al said that the Altar Stone came from Orkney, and today (in a new paper) they say that it did not.  Archaeology is already in the doldrums because of all the fantastical claims of MPP and his merry men, and now geology appears to be on the slide as well -- demonstrating to the world that publication is all that matters and that thinking is out of fashion.

Here are the details:

Was the Stonehenge Altar Stone from Orkney? 2024
Bevins, Richard; Pearce, Nick; Hillier, Stephen; Pirrie, Duncan; Ixer, Rob A.; Andò, Sergio; Barbarano, Marta; Power, Matthew R.; Turner, Peter
Journal of Archaeological Science: Reports, 58

DOI:10.1016/j.jasrep.2024.104738

Citation:
Bevins, R., Pearce, N., Hillier, S., Pirrie, D., Ixer, R. A., Andò, S., Barbarano, M., Power, M. R., & Turner, P. (2024). Was the Stonehenge Altar Stone from Orkney? Investigating the mineralogy and geochemistry of Orcadian Old Red sandstones and Neolithic circle monuments. Journal of Archaeological Science: Reports, 58, Article 104738. Advance online publication. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jasrep.2024.104738


ABSTRACT

Recent petrological, mineralogical and geochemical investigations of the Stonehenge Altar Stone have negated its source in the Old Red Sandstone (ORS) Anglo-Welsh Basin. Further, it has been suggested that it is time to look wider, across northern Britain and Scotland, especially in areas where geological and geochemical evidence concur, and there is evidence of Neolithic communities and their monuments. In this context the islands of Orkney, with its rich Neolithic archaeology, are an obvious area worthy of investigation. The same techniques applied to investigations of the Altar Stone and ORS sequences in southern Britain have been applied to two major Neolithic monuments on Mainland Orkney, namely the Stones of Stenness and the Ring of Brodgar. In addition, field samples of ORS lithologies from the main stratigraphic horizons on Mainland Orkney have been investigated.

Portable XRF analyses of the five exposed stones at the Stones of Stenness and seven of the exposed stones at the Ring of Brodgar show a wide range of compositions, having similar compositions to field samples analysed from both the Lower and Upper Stromness Flagstone formations, with the stones at Stenness appearing to have been sourced from the Upper Stromness Flagstone Formation while the Ring of Brodgar stones possibly being sourced from both formations. Examination of the mineralogy of ORS field samples and the Stonehenge Altar Stone, using a combination of X-ray diffraction, microscopy, Raman spectroscopy and automated SEM-EDS shows there to be no match between the Orkney samples and the Altar Stone. Only two samples from Orkney showed the presence of baryte, a characteristic mineral of the Altar Stone. Another key discriminant is the presence of abundant detrital K-feldspar in all of the Orkney field samples, a mineral which has only very low abundance in the Altar Stone. In addition, the regularly interstratified dioctahedral/dioctahedral smectite mineral tosudite is present in the clay mineral assemblage of the Altar Stone, but not detected in the Orkney samples.

It is concluded that the Altar Stone was not sourced from Mainland Orkney, despite considerable evidence for long-distance communications between Orkney and Stonehenge around 3000/2900 BCE.

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I have only had time for a brief reading so far, but as usual when I am reading articles by these geologists, I find myself shouting at the computer.  

The authors refer to the "date of arrival" of the bluestones at Stonehenge, with no consideration of the possibility that they might have come from an erratic cluster.  The paper is very technological (as distinct from very scientific), concentrating on pXRF readings on the stones at the Ring of Brodgar and the Stones of Stenness.  They decide that there is "no match between the Orkney samples and the Altar Stone"  -- using Altar Stone readings already published.  They refer over and again to the builders of the monuments "sourcing" (or fetching) the stones they needed,  and there are several mentions of the Vestrafiold Quarry and other putative quarries -- without ever seeking to prove that there was a quarry or that the stones could have been picked up from a ore-existing scatter of glacial erratics.  They say that 7 of the Ring of Brodgar stones show "a wide range of compositions, having similar compositions to field samples analysed from both the Lower and Upper Stromness Flagstone formations, with the 5 stones at Stenness appear to have been sourced from the Upper Stromness Flagstone Formation.  There ios no geology map or glaciation map.  As far as I can see, there is no mention anywhere in the artricle of ice movement directions or erratic transport, given that the ice flow across the island was from SE towards NW.  Also, there seems to be no attempt to differentiate between samples actually taken from the Altar Stone and samples from fragments assumed to have come from the Altar Stone.  That's not good enough.  Then they say there is  ".......considerable evidence for long-distance communications between Orkney and Stonehenge around 3000/2900 BCE".  That's a travesty.  As far as I can see, there is no evidence at all to support the idea of a 700 km sea or land transport effort involving a 6 tonne lump of rock.

It is extraordinary in this day and age that a group of senior geologists can discuss in a learned paper the sourcing of some very famous Orkney standing stones without once mentioning glaciation or erratic transport!  Do these people ever look at the landscape or consider landscape or landform surface processes?  

Whatever next, I wonder?

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https://www.researchgate.net/publication/309242436_The_last_glaciation_in_Orkney_Scotland_glacial_stratigraphy_event_sequence_and_flow_paths

The last glaciation in Orkney, Scotland: glacial stratigraphy, event sequence and flow paths
October 2016
Adrian M. Hall, James B. Riding and John Flett Brown
Scottish Journal of Geology 52(2) DOI: 10.1144/sjg2016-002

https://brian-mountainman.blogspot.com/2023/04/did-vestra-fiold-quarry-provide.html

Thursday, 15 August 2024

The Altar Stone -- much ado about nothing very much

 

The Ring of Brodgar on Orkney

The so-called "quarry" at Vestra Fiold

There has been a media feeding frenzy on the subject of the Altar Stone over the past few days, arising from this article:

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-024-07652-1

Article.  A Scottish provenance for the Altar Stone of Stonehenge.  2024. Anthony J. I. Clarke, Christopher L. Kirkland, Richard E. Bevins, Nick J. G. Pearce, Stijn Glorie & Rob A. Ixer.  Nature 632, 15 Aug 2024, pp 570-587.

We have seen BBC coverage, media reports in all of the leading journals and news outlets, and even a Nature documentary to coincide with publication.  All very carefully planned.  

https://youtu.be/HerAs9RRA34?si=U0R3YAkRuiF7FLYK

So first things first:  Do I believe the story told in this article, and its conclusions?  In short, no.  The research is very technical, but I have serious reservations about it.  I do not believe that the extravagant claims made by Anthony Clarke and his colleagues including Ixer, Pearce and Bevins are adequately supported by the evidence presented.

Next, I have no problems with what the authors say about ice flow directions and the likelihood of glacial erratic transport.  It is indeed very difficult to conceive of ice flow conditions that might have facilitated the glacial transport of a large sandstone erratic from the ORS Orcadian Basin all the way to Salisbury Plain, via either a west coast or east coast route.  As far as we know, the ice flow in the last (Devensian) Glaciation was from SE towards NW across Orkney, as described earlier on this blog. 

https://brian-mountainman.blogspot.com/search?q=+Orkney+ice+flow

 

Source:  Adrian Hall et al, 2016

This means that the erratics from Orkney would have been transported out into the North Atlantic, and there is no obvious mechanism for them to have been picked up by southward-flowing ice.  That having been said, we are still in the dark about what happened in earlier glaciations, including the Anglian.  It is not beyond the bounds of possibility that a large erratic of ORS sandstone from the Orcadian Basin could have been moved multiple times, during assorted glacial phases, before being transported south by the Irish Sea Ice Stream that originated off the west coast of Scotland.  The abundant erratics of Ailsa Craig microgranite (from the Firth of Clyde)  in West Wales confirm both the ice source and the direction of flow. 

Next, what ids the quality of the geology in this paper?   I await further specialist advice, but I am not very impressed.  

1.  The large and very elaborate piece of research may all be a complete waste of time because we do not know whether the two samples deemed to have come from the Altar Stone actually did so.  They are fragments sampled by Bevins, Ixer et al, but they came out of an old box -- like many of their other samples -- and they may not have anything to do with the Altar Stone apart from having been found quite close to it.

2.  That having been said, what of the other samples?  There is nothing in the article about sampling protocols, but the ones deemed to be representative of the ORS sandstones of the Orcadian Basin have come from Spittal on Caithness and Cruaday on Orkney. 



Cruaday Quarry on Orkney, just down the hill from Vestra Fiold, flagged up enthusiastically by archaeologists as the source for the Stones of Stenness and the Ring of Brodgar.

 You can see where this is leading, can't you?

https://brian-mountainman.blogspot.com/2023/04/did-vestra-fiold-quarry-provide.html

https://brian-mountainman.blogspot.com/2014/01/ring-of-brodgar-and-its-quarry.html

https://brian-mountainman.blogspot.com/2014/02/ring-of-brodgar-again.html

https://brian-mountainman.blogspot.com/2011/11/beware-quarry-hunter-on-prowl.html 

It is clear to me that the authors of the current paper have taken a piece of sandstone from one of the massive grey-green sandstone beds in the hope of demonstrating that the Altar Stone came from Vestra Fiold and that it is a first cousin of the standing stones at Stenness and Brodgar.  The local geology of the Stromness Sandstones according to Wikipedia:

Most of the Old Red Sandstone of Orkney is of Middle Devonian age. The lower part of the sequence, mostly Eifelian in age, is dominated by lacustrine beds of the lower and upper Stromness Flagstones that were deposited in Lake Orcadie. The two flagstones sequences are divided by the Sandwick fish bed, equivalent to the Achanarras formation of Caithness, representing an unusually persistent, deep and widespread lake that filled much of the Orcadian Basin. The sequence continues with the Rousay flagstones deposited in a similar lacustrine environment. The flagstones show a marked cyclicity in their sedimentation, with 86 such cycles being counted for the whole sequence. These are interpreted as representing regular climatically driven changes in lake level caused by Milankovitch cyclicity

The Eday Group overlies the Rousay Flagstones and represents a change to dominantly fluvial/aeolian deposition with only occasional lacustrine intervals. The Eday Group consists of three sandstone units, the lower, middle and upper Eday Sandstones separated by the Eday Flagstones and Eday Marl respectively. The Eday Marl consists mainly of red and green mudstones and siltstones and is thought to have been deposited in a river floodplain environment. Locally pseudomorphs of halite have been found and rarely marine microfossils (scolecodonts) indicating that the basin was affected by occasional marine incursions at this time. 

I think we can also assume that the geologists have failed to find any sort of match between the Altar Stone samples (supposed) and the rocks of Vestra Fiold and Cruaday.  If they had found a match, the banner headlines would have been even larger than they already are!

To be continued.  More on the technical stuff as soon as we can manage........


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ABSTRACT

Understanding the provenance of megaliths used in the Neolithic stone circle at

Stonehenge, southern England, gives insight into the culture and connectivity of

prehistoric Britain. The source of the Altar Stone, the central recumbent sandstone

megalith, has remained unknown, with recent work discounting an Anglo-Welsh

Basin origin.  Here we present the age and chemistry of detrital zircon, apatite and

rutile grains from within fragments of the Altar Stone. The detrital zircon load largely

comprises Mesoproterozoic and Archaean sources, whereas rutile and apatite are

dominated by a mid-Ordovician source. The ages of these grains indicate derivation

from an ultimate Laurentian crystalline source region that was overprinted by

Grampian (around 460 million years ago) magmatism. Detrital age comparisons

to sedimentary packages throughout Britain and Ireland reveal a remarkable

similarity to the Old Red Sandstone of the Orcadian Basin in northeast Scotland.

Such a provenance implies that the Altar Stone, a 6 tonne shaped block, was sourced

at least 750 km from its current location. The difficulty of long-distance overland

transport of such massive cargo from Scotland, navigating topographic barriers,

suggests that it was transported by sea. Such routing demonstrates a high level of

societal organization with intra-Britain transport during the Neolithic period.




Tuesday, 25 April 2023

Did the Vestra Fiold "quarry" provide standing stones for the Ring of Brodgar and the Stones of Stenness?



The Vestra Fiold "quarry pit" from which, so it is claimed, firm evidence of quarrying was extracted.  The evidence is much more equivocal than claimed.  (Photo: Colin Richards)


There's a new article about the Vestra Fiold "quarry" on Orkney, which is very concise and nicely produced but which tells us nothing new.  Here it is:


Vestrafiold – the megalithic quarry
SUNDAY, APRIL 23, 2023

But on examining it, I realised that it is based on a whole string of assumptions going back quite far into the archaeological record, all based on the assumption that there is a stone quarry there that has provided monoliths for the famous stone settings at the ring of Brodgar and the Stones of Stenness, some miles to the SE. Everybody cites the older "authorities" who described it as a place of monolith quarrying, but nobody seems to have asked any serious questions about that key assertion.  And of course Colin Richards has confirmed this -- in the eyes of many -- in a number of publications.  So powerful has this assertion been that RCAHMS has confirmed it as a scheduled monument, apparently without any serious examination of the evidence.  Colin's narrative about quarrying and stone movement is just as fanciful as that of MPP with regard to Rhosyfelin -- and of course, because he was part of the digging team,  he may well have been more than a little involved in the interpretation and description of the features at the latter site......


But things are not quite that simple.  Many years ago Aubrey Burl explored the idea that the stones at the two famous sites near the Ness of Brodgar were collected up in the immediate neighbourhood, and were either glacial erratics or stone slabs lifted from nearby stone extraction pits. It's known that the monoliths are of seven different rock types -- which immediately disposes of the myth that all of the monoliths came from a dedicated quarry at Vestra Fiold.

There are two other scheduled monuments in the vicinity of Vestra Fiold, a Neolithic long cairn and a Bronze Age (?) enclosure  -- and I have never seen a serious consideration that any quarrying at Vestra Fiold may simply have been devoted to the provision of local stone for local use.

And on the matter of geology and geomorphology, the glacial erratic  hypothesis has simply been ignored in most of the literature about the Orkney megalithic sites.  And yet it has been known for well over a century that the Stromness Sandstones outcrop both to the south and the north of the Ness, and that the monoliths used in the famous stone settings COULD have come from the SE, given that there was a SE - NW movement of ice across Orkney on at least one occasion during the Quaternary.


As I said in 2014: I have seen nothing in the geological work which might indicate that the orthostats in the Ring have come from the north of the island rather than from the south -- and there is one other small piece of evidence in that one stone found at the Ring appears to belong to the Eday Group, which outcrops in the south but not in the north. That might be an indicator of glacial transport from the south coast of the island towards the peninsula on which the Ring is positioned.


The last glaciation in Orkney, Scotland: glacial stratigraphy, event sequence and flow paths
October 2016
Scottish Journal of Geology 52(2)
DOI: 10.1144/sjg2016-002

Adrian M. Hall, James B. Riding and John Flett Brown

This 2016 paper by Adrian Hall and colleagues just considers the Devensian glaciation, but it confirms the log-held belief of ice transport of erratics from SE towards NW.  I'm going to remain profoundly sceptical about the Vestrafiold "monolith quarry" until somebody comes up with some convincing geological evidence in favour of it.........

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https://www.orkneyjar.com/archaeology/dhl/papers/cr/index.html

Rethinking the great stone circles of Northwest Britain
Colin Richards

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Other Information

RCAHMS records the monument as HY22SW 7, 8, 10.

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Source: Historic Environment Scotland