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Monday 10 April 2023

Peace and joy be yours for ever.....


Isn't it rather lovely, on this happy Easter Monday, that there now appears to be a great level of agreement between the geomorphologists and the archaeologists on Stonehenge and the bluestones?

After a decade of rather acrimonious disagreements, it now seems that we are in perfect harmony on a range of matters relating the Stonehenge, the bluestones, and the fate of the delightful fanciful narratives that used to fly about in the media.  For example:

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1.  After the recent admission that Stonehenge had no particular purpose, we appear to be agreed that it was probably just a folly, built by some fellow intent upon making a grandiose statement and then adapted for a variety of uses through the centuries that followed.  The world's first multi-purpose venue?

2.  There are hints that my belief in Stonehenge as a structure that was never actually finished (maybe because they ran out of stones) is now accepted rather more widely than before.

3.  There is a mutual acceptance that the Stonehenge bluestones have not just come from a couple of monolith quarries but from "multiple geological sources".

4.  It's agreed that Craig Rhosyfelin never was the "Pompeii of Neolithic quarries" and that the site -- or some other place nearby -- might have provided (at most) one lump of rock that ended up at Stonehenge.

5.  As far as Carn Goedog is concerned, we no longer hear about "bluestone quarrying on an industrial scale"  -- and that is a great blessing.

6.  Waun Mawn, it is now agreed, was never the site of a "giant lost circle of standing stones".

7.  It is also agreed that any small stone setting at Waun Mawn was of strictly local interest, and had nothing to do with Rhosyfelin, Carn Goedog, or Stonehenge.

8.  The idea that Bluestone 62 at Stonehenge had a precise footprint at Waun Mawn (hole 091) and was moved to Stonehenge from there has also been abandoned.

9.  The idea that Stonehenge Bluestone 62 came from one of the supposed bluestone quarries has also been abandoned.

10.  We are now all happily agreed that any standing stones that were present at Waun Mawn were collected up in the immediate vicinity.

11.  The claim that isotope evidence from the analyses of teeth and bones at Stonehenge showed a direct link between Stonehenge and West Wales has now quietly been dropped, and there is agreement that some of the people and cattle who arrived at Stonehenge had previously been somewhere else, maybe in western of northern parts of the British Isles.

12.  The pervasive idea of the Stonehenge establishment relating to the site as the great focal point or centre of the British Neolithic world (which was heavily criticised by Barclay and Brophy) now seems to have been dumped by the archaeologists in the MPP team, in favour of a belief that the site was no more important than scores of other sites in Middle England,  and that it was on the boundary between one tribal territory and another. 

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There are a number of other quite subtle points which suggest shifting positions, but the dogged belief in the existence of megalith quarries and human bluestone transport persists to this day.  Never mind -- those beliefs will also be dumped before long, and then we can all live happily ever after.

12 comments:

Tony Hinchliffe said...

I caught the tail end of "Start the Week: I Weiwei and Design Values" with Adam Rutherford this morning on Radio 4 this morning ( shortened repeat at 9.30 p.m tonight). Worth a listen as it talks about tensions between past and present.

Tony Hinchliffe said...

Everything you always wanted to know about Stonehenge but were too afraid to ask.......Tony Robinson's Cunningcast, 57 minutes.......I haven't myself dared to listen YET.....

Perhaps this Tony has caught MPP at an unguarded moment?

BRIAN JOHN said...

In case you wondered, the words at the top of this post are hilariously sung by Dr Bartolo (I think) in Rossini's Barber of Seville......

Tony Hinchliffe said...

.....however,more pertinent to Brian's 12 points to rejoice over at this joyous Easter season are these words written down in the apostle John's Gospel:

"I have told you these thingd, so that in me you may have peace. In this world you will have trouble. But take heart! I have overcome the world."

Tom Flowers said...

Brian, your points one and two sound more like consensuses of opinion than anything else.

I used the word "folly" years ago when realising that the Stonehengers had chased an impossible dream. But the term should not be used in any way to disrespect early man's efforts.

The absolute folly is for investigators like myself who set out to solve the hypothesis of Stonehenge when faced with a veritable minefield of lies. But I am not through yet!

Tony Hinchliffe said...

We will need to maintain a watching brief on any changes made to the precise subject content of the series of lectures Mike Parker Pearson gives to his undergraduate students under the broad heading "The Age of Stonehenge ". These take place at the Institute of Archaeology, University College London (UCL).

BRIAN JOHN said...

All will be revealed. Prof MPP is after all a university teacher, but if his published output is anything to go by, he will just shift the story to wherever he wants it to go with no acknowledgement that he was ever wrong about anything.......

chris johnson said...

Having some fun with Chatbot today and asked how the bluestones came to Stonehenge. This is the answer I got "The origin of the bluestones at Stonehenge is not entirely clear. Some archaeologists believe that they were transported to the site by humans, while others believe that they were brought there by glaciers during the last Ice Age. There is some evidence to support both theories, but it is still hotly debated among experts."

BRIAN JOHN said...

Well, Mr Chatbot sounds like quite a reasonable sort of chap, more balanced in his views than certain "experts" who shall be nameless.....

Dave Maynard said...

Does Chatbot give different answers depending on how you phrase the question?

BRIAN JOHN said...

Hmmm -- I wonder? Haven't got into the mysteries of Chatbots yet. I am deeply suspicious of them...... God only knows what they might get up to.

Tony Hinchliffe said...

I have ANOTHER meaning for the oft - blog - used acronym
" MPP " - Magnetic Pull of Preseli.

The thing about our friend celebrity archaeologist Professor MPP is that he realises the magnetic pull of Preseli to his punters.

As renowned Welsh actor Michael Sheen said recently in Jonathan Ross's Myths & Legends ITV programme:-

"....the deeper meaning of myths and legends is that they speak to a more IRRATIONAL part of ourselves"