One of our contributors used this old quote the other day: "A Man sees what he wants to see......and disregards the rest". By adding the letter "I" it becomes even more interesting:
"AI Man sees what he wants to see......and disregards the rest"
How much do we know about Stonehenge? Less than we think. And what has Stonehenge got to do with the Ice Age? More than we might think. This blog is mostly devoted to the problems of where the Stonehenge bluestones came from, and how they got from their source areas to the monument. Now and then I will muse on related Stonehenge topics which have an Ice Age dimension...
A lump of sarsen found at Stonehenge. Size unknown. Maul or hammerstone? Are the scars caused by percussion damage? Are they fresh, or old? Could some of these scars have been present on the boulder or stone surface before it was collected and used in the stone settings?
On the matter of mauls, there is huge confusion relating to terminology. Castleden refers to small mauls and large mauls used for rough dressing and hammerstones used for the finer work. Cleal et al (1995) refer to 261 weighed sarsen 'mauls' at Stonehenge, all but 20 of which weighed less than 2 kg. Others would refer to these as hammer stones.
As followers of this blog will know, I have voiced my doubts about the big Stonehenge mauls on many occasions on this blog. Just use the search engine to find some of the relevant posts.....
Anyway, following the enquiry from an American friend the other day about maul dimensions and weights, and after looking at Phil Harding's recent paper in The Antiquaries Journal, I have done some digging and have discovered that much of what we read in the literature is very unreliable indeed. Over and again we read that mauls in the 20 kg - 30 kg weight range were used systematically by the builders of Stonehenge to shape the large sarsen monoliths and even to shape mortice and tenon features. This is all based on what Willian Gowland said in 1902. He claimed that very heavy mauls were used as tools for "pecking" purposes, as indicated by the physical condition of the stones themselves and by the traces left on the big monoliths. Most of the so-called mauls were of course used as packing stones, and found in or near the sockets of the big uprights.
There is certainly surface "damage" on many of the stones described in the literature as mauls, but as far as I can ascertain, it is ALWAYS assumed that the damage has been done by human beings. I would like to see some hard evidence in support of that contention. Are the fracture scars always "fresh"? Or could some of them -- or all of them -- have been present on the boulder surfaces prior to collection by human beings? In other words, could we be looking at signs of glacial transport?
I don't know about you, but even when I was young and strong, I would have found it pretty well impossible to use stones heavier than bags of cement as "bashing tools" --- and that it would not have been any easier even if a mate or two had been helping me. As Phil points out in his article, the term "maul" is a bit arbitrary anyway -- when is a hammer stone so big that it has to be referred to as a "maul"?? As he points out, some authorities prefer just to refer to "hammers" -- some quite small and some rather large and inconvenient.........
Quote:
Large sarsen mauls, which were up to 29kg in weight, were frequently formed from rounded quarzitic boulders that were obtained from gravel that is present in the coombes around Stonehenge. Gowland’s classification has been widely adopted,although Whitaker, in a comprehensive study focusing on the way in which they might have been selected and worked, has questioned the complex division, preferring to classify them collectively as hammers.The myth of big mauls being used as tools has too easily been accepted, maybe because it reinforces the idea that the builders of Stonehenge were not just clever but also super-fit and superhuman -- and the idea of these powerfully built ancestors bashing away at the massive sarsens with huge unwieldy boulders is of course very handy if you are seeking to impress a busload of wide-eyed tourists on a tour of the ancient monument.........
I don't think our ancestors were that stupid. They knew all about expenditure of effort and cost-effectiveness. When they built or partly built Stonehenge, they found lots o smallish sarsen boulders lying around, and they put these to good use as packing stones. Some of them had to be reduced in size, and some were used as they were found, without any modification. They were never used as tools.
I have been checking up on the actual evidence in support of the "maul tool" hypothesis, and there is none. It is all very circumstantial and speculative. I have been having a protracted argument in AI mode on Google because it told me this:
"Numerous practical, full-scale experiments and public demonstrations have been conducted. These have generally confirmed that the "pecking" method with heavy, handheld mauls or hammerstones is effective, though extremely time-consuming and laborious. This hands-on experience, involving archaeologists like Phil Harding and Julian Richards, has been influential in moving the consensus away from pure speculation to a practical understanding of the logistics involved."
When I challenged my AI friend on this, and said it was factually inaccurate, it had to admit eventually that there is no literature describing full-scale experiments and public demonstrations of the use of very heavy mauls for shaping big sarsens, and that it was simply seeking to justify "the consensus view."
After much interesting and entertaining argumentation, this episode confirmed my view that while AI is useful in some circumstances, it would be better referred to as "artificial stupidity" because it is incapable of factoring in common sense, and always tries to please you by telling you the things you want to hear. It's essentially gullible, and does not seem to recognize a leading question for what it is. It places undue emphasis on confirming the "establishment consensus". It places undue trust in the weight or status of publications and in academic titles. We have known all of that for some time now.
Anyway, it was good to hear, on the R3 Today programme this very morning, the boss of Google and assorted other experts saying pretty well the same things as me.
I'm watching the developing crisis at the BBC with some concern, but I must say that I am not all that surprised. In my own limited contact with the BBC over editorial standards, relating to my complaint about that absurd 2021 "Lost Circle" TV programme, I am appalled by the arrogance and complacency with which my comments were greeted. First of all, putting in a formal complaint was not that easy. It was initially not accepted by the BBC, which led to my making the complaint to Ofcom, who then shunted it back to the BBC. In 2022 I provided even more detail about the nonsense contained within the programme, and the demonstrable falseness of many of the claims made by MPP and Alice Roberts, At that time the programme had been broadcast six times. The BBC replied:
".....we've received no information that would lead us to form the view that the film can't be shown again." As I have pointed out before, that was extremely arrogant and complacent. The BBC did not ask for proof associated with my complaint, and they were clearly not prepared to check things out for themselves.
As of November 2025, the programme has been broadcast on multiple occasions (at least 14), including a showing on BBC Four just a few days ago. It has also been continuously available for streaming since it was first shown in 2021. It is still promoted on Alice Roberts's Wikipedia page, which also quotes her as saying: "science is about evidence, not wishful thinking". Hmmmmm......
That notorious programme, based entirely on assumptions and speculations dressed up as responsible and reliable science, falls far short of the standards expected of the BBC. In my view it brings the BBC into disrepute, and I have said this many times before on this blog.
What makes things even more ironic is the latest BBC PR campaign, including lots of hype about "BBC Verify". The corporation claims a commitment to the unvarnished truth on everything, to the extent that they ruthlessly strip out material that may be classified as misinformation or disinformation. Well, they do nothing of the sort. On the basis of my own experience, I can say that they make editorial decisions on the basis of "impact" and financial benefit, not on the basis of hard science or factual reliability. And when broadcast nonsense is pointed out to them, they go straight into defensive mode, trotting out platitudes such as that which I have quoted above.
Not good enough, BBC. But it's rather sad that it takes a threat from that idiot in the White House Ballroom to force the Corporation to face up to its complacency and its highly defective editorial decision making processes.
The pic is from Peter Wilson's interesting video on glaciation and glacial features of the Irish Mountains:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voQYLd5svmc
Peter mentions that Ailsa Craig erratics are found all the way along the eastern coast of Ireland and as far to the south-east as Cork Harbour. That's 350 miles from the source in the Firth of Clyde. Perfect spot provenancing? Well, not quite, since we don't know how extensive the original micro-granite intrusion might have been before thye onset of glaciation and the recent (Holocene) rise of relative sea-level.
The bedrock in White Park Bay is Upper Cretaceous chalk or "white limestone". As a matter of interest, one of the larger erratics found at Kenn, not far from Bristol, is made of "white limestone" and is assumed to have come from Northern Ireland -- transported by the Irish Sea Ice Stream.
Here we go again. One would have thought that there were quite enough dodgy Stonehenge novels, but here comes another. I have not read any of them, but the feedback from those who have does not inspire confidence....
The best-known Stonehenge novel is of course the one by Bernard Cornwell, published back in 2011. It had mixed reviews, but several reviewers referred to the novel's "well researched historical content" and its "historical authenticity".......... what that means is that Cornwell has accepted and adopted the standard establishment mythology about Stonehenge as the basis for his story, going on to build his own fantastical tale on top of it. You take "the truth"and then build on it. That is what always happens with historical fiction -- I have tried to do it myself with my Angel Mountain novels.
Of course Bernard Cornwell wanted to use Stonehenge as a setting for a novel because it's a guaranteed money-spinner. I don't blame him for that........
Anyway, the latest venture into "Stonehenge fiction" is the novel by Ken Follett, published about a month ago and called "Circle of Days". Again it assumes that the "basic facts" about Stonehenge (including the human transport of stones from Wales) are known and accepted as "the truth", and are then used as an underpinning for the fantastical story invented by the author. He puts people and their interactions into the setting. Ken is a Welshman who has sold millions of copies of his books, and maybe the link with Wales gave him an extra prod for the writing of the novel. He was on BBC R4 the other morning playing his part in promoting the book, as all top authors are encouraged to do by their publishers. Again this novel has had very mixed reviews, but that won't worry either the author or the publisher, since you can't please all of the reading public all of the time.
So I'm not blaming any of the Stonehenge fiction writers for jumping onto the bandwaggon and writing their tales. But this reminds us of just how successful EH and the archaeological establishment has been in their marketing of Stonehenge mythology, which is endlessly marketed as "the truth". That marketing is what inspires authors to weave their tales for the entertainment of the novel-reading public -- and every new novel reinforces the myth. The real truth? To hell with the truth, when there is money to be made........
https://davidrabram.substack.com/p/decoding-stanton-drew
Thanks to Vince Simmonds for the followingn (2023):
Stanton Drew Stone Circles: observations and notes regarding the sourcing of the various rock-types used in the construction of the monuments.
Vince Simmonds BSc PgCert PCIfA FGS
The four main rock types represented in the Stanton Drew circles are as follows:
1. Oolitic Limestone – Jurassic 205 – 142 Ma (figure 3). These rocks are a pale grey- yellow colour, although this is difficult to fully distinguish due to a substantial lichen cover. The surface of the blocks resembles a limestone pavement and has numerous cup-like depressions and pits that partly fill with water. Many rock art sites have flat slabs of stone open to the elements and, when it rains, the cup-and-ring marks fill with water, rocks with natural cup marks are often utilised for the same effect. It could be that places where rocks ran with water or held water were culturally significant in many ways (Fowler and Cummings, 2003: 10). It is possible that some of these limestone slabs at Stanton Drew were not intended to stand or were used as capstones.
2. Silicified Dolomitic Conglomerate - Triassic 248 – 205 Ma (figure 4). These rocks have a wide range of colours from pale pink to orangey pink with some bright, sometimes ochreous orange, through to dark rust, and purple-red blotches, the red and orange colour is indicative of the mineral iron content of these Triassic rock types. The rocks have a glassy, metallic appearance and feel and the surface can be described as pitted, pock-marked, frothy, knobbly, and gnarly. There are abundant quartz geodes that make many of the stones sparkle, William Stukeley (cited in Lloyd Morgan, 1887: 39) remarks that “it shines eminently and reflects the sunbeams with great lustre”. Quartz was a highly significant and regarded material in prehistory as indicated through its use in various monuments (Lewis: online accessed 2010). There are some silicified fossil fragments from the remains of limestone clasts within the conglomerate. The varying clasts range from sub-rounded to sub-angular, fine to coarse gravel to pebble and cobble size. The majority of the stones have a substantial cover of lichen with some moss and grass.This is interesting. After 15 years of maintaining the pretence that the exposed rhyolites at Craig Rhosyfelin are unique, and characterised by a "Jovian fabric", Bevins and Ixer are at last admitting that things are a great deal more complicated than that.
On many occasions I have strongly criticized the use of the invented term "Jovian fabric," arguing that it is misleading and not a unique characteristic. Similar foliated and lensoidal textures can be found in other heavily deformed rhyolites and volcanic tuffs across Pembrokeshire and other regions, as pointed out in my post:
I'm not sure of the location, but this is somewhere in the East Greenland fjords. If we zoom in we can see the effects of spalling or exfoliation on the curving rock faces (we see similar features on granite domes and prominent peaks such as El Capitan). But by far the most spectacular feature here is the massive scar left by a single rock face collapse. We don't see much sign of different generations of slope failure here, but there may have been several "events". The essential mechanism is almost always pressure release following deglaciation.
Anyway, if there was a single big event here, it must have been quite something...........
Holger Danskes Briller trough, south-facing slope at the western end of the eastern lake. The two huge rockfall avalanche ramparts are very prominent.......
In my novel "Icefall Zero", set in East Greenland ion 1962, one of the critical incidents is a sudden rock avalanche which overwhelms and almost kills two of the heroes, in a glacial trough containing two large lakes. The trough carried diffluent ice from the huge glacier that once flowed along Nordvestfjord. (See some recent posts.........)
When we were in East Greenland in 1962 we never got a good look at the trough because of bad weather, and its slopes were mostly enveloped in low cloud. Our maps and air pohotos were also of very limited use. When I wrote the novel in 2014 the information was not much better, and satellite images of the area were of poor quality, partly because the details of the valley sides were often lost in deep shadow. But I thought the steep slopes looked unstable, especially in the middle section of the trough, where there are some high buttresses and peaks over 1000 m high.
So I invented my rock avalanche and described its effects in graphic detail in the story..........
Imagine my surprise when I examined the new Bing / TomTom satellite imagery some weeks ago and discovered amazing detail of the slopes in the trough, especially on the sunny (south facing) flank. There are multiple gullies on the cliff face, with long histories of intermittent rockfalls and probably snow avalanches too. But there are two especially prominent features, characterised by huge ridges or ramparts at their bottom ends. These are much more likely to have been the result of single sudden catastrophic slope failures. Such features are very common in NW Iceland too, beneath steep basalt cliffs subject to pressure release following deglaciation.
Each of the ramparts is about 200m wide. On the satellite imagery the ramparts and upslope scree slopes have slightly different colourations, suggesting to me that the eastern one is somewhat youngerc than the western one. How recent were these slope collapses? At the moment, the jury is still out, but I would hazard a guess and suggest that they may be very recent, from within living memory. In 1962, maybe.....??
I would not have liked to be anywhere in the vicinity when either one of these slope failures actually happened........
This is an unpublished catalogue recently placed on Academia -- and therefore not accessible to everybody. It looks as if it is a prelude to a longer and more detailed paper due to be published next year by the Ixer / Bevins duo.
https://www.academia.edu/144337293/Cunningtons_Stonehenge_rocks_an_archive_of_the_thin_section_data
Cunnington's Stonehenge rocks: an archive of the thin section data.
Thanks to the new Bing satellite imagery, we can see extraordinary detail in Kjove land, East Greenland -- tha area dealt with in some previous posts. Note the huge lateral moraine running along the mountainside to the east of the Holger Danskes Briller ice contact delta. I have marked the key features on the above image. In 1962 we were unable to examine this area in detail, as we had our work cut out in the examinations and analysis of the Gurreholmsdal raised delta complex a few km to the east. Anyway, the moraine has a series of cosmogenic dates reported in the recent paper by Kelly et al, ranging from c 15,000 yrs BP to c 12,000 yrs BP. So the moraine is assigned to the "older moraine complex" roughly coinciding with Zone I or Older Dryas in the old terminology.
The diffluent glacier snout was grounded for at least 4 km to the east iof the trough exit, and must have been afloat in the Nordostbugt area. The 134m shoreline is traceable downslope of the morainic ridge, but its precise relationship with raised marine deposits is still to be determined.
https://doi.org/10.1016/j.quascirev.2025.109531
PS. The eastern lake of the Holger Danskes Briller is now named Margaret Lambert Sø. You can see the eastern edge of the lake in the image above.