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Thursday, 21 August 2025

The BGS -- off to dreamland with the tooth fairy

 

Photo of a cow's tooth....... not the one used in the study

Well, it is the silly seaon, and we expect assorted bits of nonsense to be making the headlines.  What we don't expect is to find an august (and supposedly very scientific) body like the British Geological Survey (BGS) at the centre of a piece of pseudo-science, promoting it heavily to a gullible media.

The big story today (in the Guardian, Mail, and Independent) has been promoted by the BGS press office, which is presumably accepted by all editors as highly reliable and respectable source.  The press release, reproduced below, is quite extraordinary and highly irresponsible.

The story is all about the analysis of a single cattle tooth, taken from a cow's jawbone found near the "entrance" to Stonehenge in 1924.  According to legend, this jawbone was "carefully placed" and was therefore of great significance.  Now where have we heard that sort of thing before?

Let's just make this point.  The article which is being hyped here is a rather dry and dusty one, of interest to those who are keen on cow's teeth, but it provides no evidence whatsoever that the famous cow which might have spent some of its time in an area of older rocks had anything  to do with Wales, let alone Pembrokeshire and let alone the Mynydd Preseli area.  The article itself makes no extravagant claims,  but it is seized on by Evans, Parker Pearson and Madgwick who pretend that it makes some major contribution to the "established" Stonehenge bluestone narrative.

It's all completely bonkers.

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BGS news
https://www.bgs.ac.uk/news/scientists-uncover-secrets-of-stonehenges-mysterious-cattle/

Scientists uncover secrets of Stonehenge’s mysterious cattle


Cutting-edge analysis of a Neolithic cow tooth dating back to the construction of the famous landmark provides evidence of Welsh origins.

20/08/2025 By BGS Press


The mysteries of Stonehenge have baffled scientists for centuries. In the 2010s, archaeologists and geologists identified two quarries in Wales as the sources of Stonehenge’s legendary standing bluestones. Now, new evidence published by scientists in August 2025 consolidates this connection.

A century ago, in 1924, archaeologists discovered a cow’s jawbone that had been carefully placed beside Stonehenge’s south entrance and dated it to the monument’s very beginning in 2995 to 2900 BCE. The discovery has intrigued historians ever since. Why had it been placed there? Why was this animal considered special? Researchers from BGS, Cardiff University and University College London have used isotope analysis to bring this artifact to life, helping to reveal further tantalising glimpses into the origins of the historic landmark.The scientists sliced the cow’s third molar tooth, which records chemical signals from the animal’s second year of life, into nine horizontal sections. They were then able to measure carbon, oxygen, strontium and lead isotopes, which each offer clues about the cow’s diet, environment and movement.

The oxygen isotopes revealed that the tooth captured roughly six months of growth, from winter to summer, whilst the carbon isotopes showed the animal’s diet changed with the seasons: woodland fodder in winter and open pasture in summer. Additionally, the strontium isotopes indicated the seasonal food sources came from different geological areas, suggesting that the cow either moved seasonally or that winter fodder was imported.

The lead isotopes revealed composition spikes during the late winter to spring, pointing to a lead source that was older than the lead in the rest of the tooth. The composition suggests the cow originated from an area with Palaeozoic rocks, such as the bluestones found in Wales, before moving to Stonehenge.
This is the first time that scientists have seen evidence linking cattle remains from Stonehenge to Wales, adding further weight to theories that cows were used in the transportation of the enormous rocks across the country.

This study has revealed unprecedented details of six months in a cow’s life, providing the first evidence of cattle movement from Wales as well as documenting dietary changes and life events that happened around 5000 years ago. A slice of one cow tooth has told us an extraordinary tale and, as new scientific tools emerge, we hope there is still more to learn from her long journey.

Prof Jane Evans, BGS Honorary Research Associate.

In addition to this discovery, researchers also concluded that the unusual lead signal could not be explained by local contamination or movement alone. Instead, there was another explanation: that lead stored in the cow’s bones had been remobilised during the stresses of pregnancy. If true, this would mean the cow was female and pregnant or nursing during the tooth’s formation. To test the hypothesis, the team applied a peptide-based sex determination technique at the University of Manchester, which showed there was a high probability that the animal was female.

This research has provided key new insights into the biography of this enigmatic cow whose remains were deposited in such an important location at a Stonehenge entrance. It provides unparalleled new detail on the distant origins of the animal and the arduous journey it was brought on. So often grand narratives dominate research on major archaeological sites, but this detailed biographical approach on a single animal provides a brand-new facet to the story of Stonehenge.

Richard Madgwick, professor of archaeological science at Cardiff University.

Stonehenge has many secrets left to be uncovered. However, this latest research helps fill in just a few more of those gaps as we learn more about this legendary landmark.

This is yet more fascinating evidence for Stonehenge’s link with south-west Wales, where its bluestones come from. It raises the tantalising possibility that cattle helped to haul the stones.

Michael Parker Pearson, professor of British later prehistory 
at University College London.

The research paper, Sequential multi-isotope sampling through a Bos taurus tooth from Stonehenge, to assess comparative sources and incorporation times of strontium and lead, is now available to read.

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Monday, 18 August 2025

Hubris instead of science



If you want to know what "Hubris" means, just watch the infamous documentary about the Lost Circle, featuring MPP and many of his merry men and women, egged on by an "astonished" Alice Roberts. (it is still being pushed via BBC iPlayer, in spite of -- or maybe because of -- protests about the appalling level of the "science" nvoilved.)  Some clips from the documentary were shown by Coral and Jacky in their YouTube video about the Bluestone Debate.  The trouble with the brand of hubris promoted by the HTG (Human Transport Gang) is that it is dressed up as science, which means that it is much more likely to be picked up and perpetrated as "the truth" by an increasingly gullible media.  

Members of the gang have, over the past fifteen years or so, not been very backward in coming forward and telling the world how important their research is. They don't do modesty or caution.   Superlatives have flowed as freely as water.  The most accurate piece of geological monolith provenancing ever seen in the British Isles. The biggest, best and earliest Neolithic stone quarries.  The longest list of Neolithic stone quarrying "engineering features" ever assembled.  The most technically advanced and longest stone haulage expeditions ever attempted in the western world.  The best evidence ever produced to show where one particular Stonehenge monolith (which, by the way, has never been found) came from on a quarry rock face.  The clearest imprint ever found of a Stonehenge stone that was used in an earlier stone setting.  The second biggest stone circle ever found in Britain.  The site of "proto-Stonehenge" !!  The discovery of one of the greatest religious and political centres of Neolithic Britain..........  

So it goes on.  Extravagant media headlines of the "Stonehenge mystery finally resolved" variety, with many capitral letters, bold typefaces and exclamation marks.  All fuelled by carefully crafted press releases and quotes from senior researchers (called "experts" or "scientists") associated with top British Universities.  All wildly over the top, all based on extremely shaky evidence, and recently abandoned bit by bit under the pressure of scrutiny by independent researchers and sceptical members of the public.

Fast forward to the past month, and the paper on the Newall Boulder published by Bevins et al in the Journal of Archaeological Science.  I will dissect this paper with due objectivity in due course, but for a moment, just concentrate on the  outrageous claims made by the authors in press releases and statements to the media. They talk of "discoveries", "finds" and "new evidence" -- and claim to be "correcting the record" -- implying that they are bringing science to bear on a debate that was previously somewhat unscientific.  The debate is now  settled by our truth, say the scientists.  Then they claim (falsely, of course)  that "there is no evidence" to support the idea of glacial transport of bluestone erratics.  So we have claims of "the death of the glacial transport hypothesis" by at least one of the joint authors, and "human transport finally confirmed".........

Among the adjectives used by correspondents to describe the recent paper, we get the following:  arrogant.  disrespectful, insensitive, condescending, insulting, and complacent.  But what gets most people is the sheer arrogance of the eleven authors who seem to assume that this is the last word, and that I for one will have to accept defeat and go away, leaving Bevins et al in sole charge of the playing field.  No chance of that.  The eleven authors seem to have been incredibly naive and blind to the fact that their own evidence -- and their convoluted bluestone narrative --  has  no strong evidence to support it.  Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence to back them up and that evidence is just not there.  Bevins et al do not appear to know how science works.  They have not corrected the record at all -- they have expressed  opinions on several relevant matters, and to claim anything more grandiose than that is simply to demonstrate that hubris is alive and well..  

Friday, 15 August 2025

A healthy dose of scepticism




I have been looking again at the two YouTube videos created by Coral and Jacky Henderson and published on their CoralJackZ pages.

Here are the links:

Part 1:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoobiRgv50g


Part 2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idbEst34aEw&t


The videos were released last year and have tremendous viewing figures -- and I'm very impressed with the understated and cautious approach taken by Jacky in his presentation. His scepticism is commendable! Compare that with the extraordinary hype contained in that infamous TV documentary about the "Lost Circle"...... and with other videos now on YouTube which accept without any scrutiny  the wacky narrative promoted by Richard Bevins, Mike Parker Pearson and others over the last few years.

The thing I am most impressed by (having now had another look at the 2024 videos) is the level of research that has gone into the split screen sections.  Without any prompting from me, they have dug around in the literature and found illustrations to back up the points made by me in Part 2 and by my opponents as well.  I'm rather gratified to see that none of their research has revealed major shortcomings in the things that I said to camera.

If the comments made by viewers are anything to go by, many others have also given a warm welcome to this rather refreshing approach......


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PS.  If you want to know my take on the Altar Stone provenancing debate, there is a 15 min section in video No 2, from 28.51 to 42.02.  My comments, as far as I know, have not been overtaken by events.






Tuesday, 12 August 2025

Fluvioglacial gravels in Cardigan


There is a new exposure of horizontally bedded fluvioglacial sand and gravel in Cardigan, where a hillside has been excavated out to ctreate a flat platform suitable for a new retail shopping park.  One store has been built there already by Home Bargains Ltd, and a new Aldi store will soon follow on the site.

The site is north of the river, not far from Theatr Mwldan and the new NHS Integrated Care Health Centre.

Grid reference -- SN 17566 46664

The exposed face is 15- 20m high, and having been cut a few years ago it is already colonised by sand martins and is starting to degrade.  But if anybody wants to take some samples for OSL dating, there are enough vertical faces left in easily accessible positions.

The OSL dates obtained by Glasser et al (2018) from Trefigin and Pantgwyn quarries, both to the south of the Teifi River, were around 26,000 yrs BP, suggesting that the ice of the Irish Sea Ice Stream was disintegrating in the lower Teifi Valley at a relatively early date -- in turn suggesting a glacial maximum around 28,000 - 27,000 yrs BP.  The dates may or may not be reliable.........

Glasser, N.F. et al, Late Devensian deglaciation of south-west Wales from luminescence and cosmogenic isotope dating: LATE DEVENSIAN DEGLACIATION OF SOUTH-WEST WALES
August 2018
Journal of Quaternary Science 33(2)
DOI: 10.1002/jqs.3061

Sunday, 10 August 2025

My Response to Daw's Desperate Diatribe



Reports of the death of the glacial transport theory are greatly exaggerated

I can put up with Tim Daw posting a stream of personal insults aimed at me on his own blog, which is read by his own enthusiastic followers, but I will not accept an ad hominem attack from him which is published on the Researchgate platform, posing as a learned article.  He even asked Researchgate to change the typeface at the head of the article,  to make it look as if it was extracted from an academic journal. Cheap stunt.   I'm amazed that Researchgate accepted it, given that it contains no scientific content whatsoever,  and that it is simply a gleeful celebration of what he perceives to be the death of the glacial transport theory. 

If Daw and his mates from within the Stonehenge establishment think that I am now going to shut up and go away, they have another thing coming.  And if they really think that the "transport debate" is now definitively concluded, that shows how little they understand about the scientific process. 

I wonder what Daw's colleagues think of the  endless stream of ill-considered attacks on his blog?  Not a lot, I suspect.  He is a considerable embarrassment.  Anyway, here is my response, also on Researchgate:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/394423030_The_Stonehenge_bluestones_reports_of_the_death_of_the_glacial_transport_theory_are_grossly_exaggerated

Joint controlled blocks -- statements of the obvious

 

One of the Kjove Land giant erratics in East Greenland.  To call this a "joint controlled block" might or might not be accurate, but the term tells us nothing of importance about its origins.


To call a small clast or larger boulder a "joint controlled block" is to make a statement of the obvious, since the term can be applied to virtually all lumps of rock in nature.  I have come across the term several times recently, in the context of the bluestone monoliths of Stonehenge and the Newall Boulder......

https://nora.nerc.ac.uk/id/eprint/502372/1/WD-94-7.pdf

When bedrock breaks up, under the influence of weathering and erosive forces, it will always break along the planes or lines of weakness within the rock mass -- and these may coincide with bedding planes, faults, shear fractures  or simple joints caused by internal stresses such as drying out, cooling, contraction or compaction.  The term "brittle failure" is often used. Geologists also refer to fractures, fissures and planar or sub-planar joints, and also "cleavage" to describe splitting in metamorphic rocks such as slate.   Pressure release is one process that can create both vertical and horizontal jointing and slope failure.  I have talked about this in association with glacial erosional processes.  On a large scale regional tectonic forces can also be involved.  Whatever the scale, tensile stress is the thing......

Bedding planes and foliations are not the same as joints, but differences in texture and mineral arrangements might be sufficient for stresses to develop within the rock and to result in parallel or sub-parallel joints.

The only chunks of rock that can NOT be referred to as natural "joint controlled blocks" are massive rocks split with the ancient "wedge and feathers" method (involving the drilling of lines of holes) or rocks cut with a diamond saw -- so we can forget about those with respect to the Neolithic!!

Glacially eroded facets may or may not coincide with joints in a clast.  It all depends how a clast is positioned with respect to the flowing or abrading medium -- in this case, moving ice.

So to refer to a clast -- whether in a Stonehenge context or not -- as a "joint controlled block" tells me virtually nothing about it, although it might sound terribly scientific.  When I see a faceted or striated clast with abraded edges, gouges and chatter marks or other percussion fractures, I will continue to call it a glacial erratic if it is not locally derived, paying due respect to the processes that are at work in our environment. Geology gets us so far, but not far enough for a geomorphologist.

 Let's just call a spade a spade.........


The Newall Boulder -- to call it a "joint controlled block" is to miss almost everything significant about its appearance and its origins


Saturday, 9 August 2025

Stonehenge: the non-completion theory


Anthony Johnson's "immaculate Stonehenge".  Too perfect, and too many pillars that do not accord with reality.  Personally, I think the evidence favours the idea of a grand project, never completed because the builders ran out of stones.



This is an interesting discussion, reminding us that I am not the only person who thinks that Stonehenge was never actually finished, because the builders, having collected up all the stones that were available to them,  simply ran out of raw materials.  They probably also ran out of energy as well......

This is an extract from the laser survey report from 2012. written by Abbott et al:

Abbott, M. et al 2012.  Stonehenge Laser Scan -- archaeological analysis report.  EH Report Series 32-2012  (EH Project 6457), 71 pp

StonehengeLaserScan_ArchaeologicalAnalysis.pdf


Incomplete or imperfect and damaged: the non-completion theory re-considered


Ever since John Wood (1747) wondered why so many of the lintels were missing from
Stonehenge, and how any would-be stone robber might have removed them without
damaging the uprights, successive authors have questioned whether Stonehenge was ever
finished. After accurately surveying the monument, William Flinders Petrie invigorated
the debate, stating:
'The evidence for non-completion of the outer sarsens, is in the very much smaller Stone I..... Again Nos. 21 and 23 are both defective in size compared with the rest; these show that II was no single freak,
but was the result of not having better material. If the builders ran so short as to have to use such a stone as II, is it not very probably that they had not enough to finish the circle?'
(Petrie 1880, 16)

This issue is still hotly debated; Christopher Tilley et al. (2007) argue that the monument
was not completed, while Anthony Johnson (2008, I46) argues for a finished monument.
This debate was also considered by David Field and Trevor Pearson following their survey
of Stonehenge (2010, 62-66). Analysis of the laser-scan data has revealed significant new
evidence that informs, rather than solves, this debate. Key aspects of the non-completion
theory are reviewed. These are:

• The presence and use of 'inadequate' stones (e.g. Stones II and 21).

• The absence of approximately one third of the Sarsen Circle on the SW side of the
monument and the absence of the majority of the lintels.

• The absence of documentary evidence for the removal of stones or slighting of the
monument.

The use of inadequate stones, particularly on the SW half of the monument, is central
to the non-completion theory. The diminutive Stone 11 has been subject to the most
debate: it is not only narrow, it is the only upright not of full height. This study has
observed that Stone 11's top is broken off, confirming the views of Lukis (1882), Stone
(1924) and Atkinson (1956). The stone may well, therefore, have stood to full height
and, if its current width was maintained, the c.l m-wide stone top would have provided a
more than adequate seat for the ends of two lintels (cf Johnson 2008). There is, however,
no doubt that many of the stones in the SW part of the Sarsen Circle, particularly
from Stone 11 to 21, are less substantial and regular than those on the NE side of the
monument. We have argued above that the positioning of individual stones, based on
their size, shape and pattern of dressing, is an important aspect of the architecture of
the Sarsen Circle. The largest, most regular and finest dressed stones are positioned
towards the NE of the circle, where they are viewed as one approaches the circle from
the Avenue. The view from the centre of the monument is also significant but, due to the
masking effect of the Sarsen Horseshoe, the most important faces are again those on the
NE side of the monument. The absence of dressing on the exterior surfaces of stones
on the SW of the Sarsen Circle indicates that the monument was not designed to be
approached from this direction.

In the non-completion theory there are two common implicit assumptions:

• That the circle was of uniform construction, e.g. 'The planned norm would appear to have
been Stone 29, 30 and 1 to 7' (Ashbee 1998, 139)

• That the raw materials from which Stonehenge were constructed were not identified
before construction started and the supply of materials was exhausted, e.g. 'An
examination of the stones at Stonehenge would appear to shew that the builders were
unable to obtain sufficient material of suitable quality and of large enough size to properly
fulfil their requirements. They had to take what they could get rather than what they would
have desired. This indicates a very limited supply'
(Stone 1924, 73)

The argument for a 'planned norm' is certainly questionable and one may argue that
this issue is compounded by the way in which we commonly view Stonehenge: through
plans and artificially elevated bird's eye-view reconstructions. Both of these viewpoints
encourage us to consider the Sarsen Circle as a regular structure, as from these
perspectives we can see a perfect circle. Moreover, in the artificially elevated views it is
possible to see the outer face of the circle in the foreground and the inner face at the
back of the circle. On the ground - the viewpoint for this monument in the Neolithic
far less of the circle can be appreciated from a single viewpoint. When standing on the
Stonehenge Avenue, one can see the exterior faces of the NE half of the monument;
however, due to the curve of these, it is not possible to see the precise form of each
stone. The visual illusion of regularity from this perspective may well have influenced the
positioning of individual stones on this side of the monument. For example, Stone 3 has a
very large flake scar on the exterior NE edge, but this irregularity is not visible from the
Avenue: the break is in plain view but does not affect the outline of the stone. However,
had this stone been erected in the NW quadrant, e.g. in the position of Stone 27, this
irregularity would have been all too clear. Similarly, the large irregularities on the tops of
Stones 27 and 28 are not particularly visible from the Avenue, as they directly face the
observer. Yet had these stones been used on the SE or NW side of the monument, they
would clearly have stood out. Similarly, the stones that can be seen most clearly from the
centre of the monument are the most regular, well-dressed faces.

The argument for a 'shortage' of raw materials is particularly problematic. The
assumption that a design was generated before stones were identified implies that
the stones were little more than building blocks, comparable to material we might
purchase from builders' merchants. The stones themselves are however likely to have
been of some significance to the builders of Stonehenge who were prepared to go to
considerable lengths to bring stones from as far away as west Wales and north Wiltshire. (BJ comment:  this cosy assumption of  "significance" or links with "sacred sites" is not supported by any hard evidence. It cannot be used in support of an argument that  Stonehenge was complete or immaculate.) 
Rick Peterson's recent discovery of William Stukeley's 1723 drawing of shaped sarsen
stones at Clatford near Avebury indicates that stones of sizes equivalent to those of
the Sarsen Circle were available less than 20 miles away (Parker Pearson 2012, 297;
Piggott 1948).

The absence of many stones from Stonehenge, combined with the absence of
documentary evidence for their breakage or removal, forms another cornerstone of
the non-completion debate. Analysis of the laser-scan data has revealed that significant
portions of most fallen stones have been removed from Stonehenge. Indeed, the
quantity of stone removed was very significant. The differential preservation of the NE
and SW halves of the monument still requires explanation, particularly as the evidence
for deliberate slighting is minimal and is confined to the attempted breakage and burial of
the Slaughter Stone at some point prior to the 19th century (cf Ashbee 1998). It should,
however, be noted that those sarsens that have pieces missing are the fallen ones, with
the sole exception of Stone 11. This indicates that these fallen stones were easy prey for
stone robbers. It is therefore worth questioning whether the pattern of fallen stones
results from differences in construction between the NE and SW halves of the Sarsen
Circle. It is certainly clear that the smaller stones have been used towards the rear of the
circle and, in the case of Stone 13, this was set in a very shallow stone hole. During his
visit in 2009, Malagasy archaeologist, Ramlisonina noticed that many of the fallen stones
have tapered and narrow bases: when these stones were erect and in situ, their above-
ground part would have given the appearance of symmetry with a rectangular shape
whilst their less symmetrical and less stable bases would have been hidden below ground,
sacrificing long-term stability and hence contributing to their collapse (Parker Pearson
2012, 293). Thus, if the less suitable monoliths were used in the SW, these may have
been the ones with the least stable bases.

In conclusion, this study provides evidence that 27 of 30 uprights of the Sarsen Circle
were certainly erected, and the presence of tenons on adjacent uprights may indicate
that all were present along with at least 26 of the 30 lintels. There is certainly no
convincing evidence that the circle remained incomplete, and in the light of the significant
degree of demonstrable stone robbing, it is possible that a complete Sarsen Circle once
existed. It is, however, clear that the Sarsen Circle was never a perfectly symmetrical
circle of regular pillar and lintels. Its SW half was not as well constructed as the surviving
NE half; the stones were smaller, less regularly shaped and their exterior surfaces were
left coarsely dressed or entirely unworked.

(BJ comment:  As I have argued before, the argument in favour of a copmplete Stonehenge stone monument is really rather thin and unconvincing.  It is all a matter of opinion........)

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There are a number of remarks and pieces of evidence relevant to this debate which are scattered throughout the report.

The above text concentrates too much on the sarsens, and there are few mentions of the bluestones, which are inherently much more significant in this debate because of their geological characteristics, their shapes and their sizes.


Laser scanning of the Stonehenge bluestones



3D Laser Scan Survey of Stonehenge, Wiltshire. By Andrew J Dodson & Cory D Hope. 2012

https://www.greenhatch-group.co.uk/plugins/downloads/files/Stonehenge_micro_site.pdf

See also:

Abbott, M. et al 2012.  Stonehenge Laser Scan -- archaeological analysis report.  EH Report Series 32-2012  (EH Project 6457), 71 pp

(Authors include Parker Pearson, Ixer and Colin Richards)

StonehengeLaserScan_ArchaeologicalAnalysis.pdf


 Unfortunately there is a copying lock on this file, which means it is much less useful than it might be........
See also:



Extract:  

Bluestone Circle

The Bluestone Circle is located between the Sarsen Circle and the Sarsen Horseshoe.
Thirty stones survive, but originally there would have been many more; Paul Ashbee
(1998) favoured a total of 56 stones, while Mike Pitts indicates that there may have been
up to sixty or seventy (Pitts 2001, 137). Of the surviving stones, 8 are standing, Il are
fallen, 2 are displaced and 9 survive as buried stumps.

The overall structure of the circle is unclear but, in general, the stones increase in size
towards the NE and the two most substantial stones (Stones 31 and 49) are placed with a
wide gap straddling the main NE-SW axis of the monument. The stones in the Bluestone
Circle include spotted dolerite, unspotted dolerite, rhyolite, rhyolitic and dacitic tuffs (Ixer and
Bevins 201 |a, Bevins et al., 2012), altered volcanic ash, sandstone with mica and calcareous
ash (Atkinson 1956; Thorpe et al. 1991. However, the three latter stone types only survive
as buried stumps, along with one stone of spotted dolerite and another of rhyolite.

The stones in this circle are largely unworked, with the exception of two spotted dolerite
lintels (36 and 150), reused from an earlier structure that included bluestone trilithons.
Stone 45 exhibits coarse pick dressing on its interior (now upper) face and very fine
pecking on both sides. Stone 45 is therefore comparable to the uprights re-used in
the Bluestone Horseshoe and one may speculate that the buried face is finely dressed;
as has been observed on the stones of the Horseshoe. It may be significant that the
roughest dressed face was orientated towards the centre of the monument when this
stone was erected in the circle of largely undressed stones. The reused lintels, which
were both originally erected in the Bluestone Horseshoe with their mortises facing the
exterior of the circle, have fallen and are now largely buried. Richard Atkinson excavated
both of these stones in 1954, lifting Stone 36 for the purpose of recording it, but both
were re-buried in their original positions. Atkinson recorded transverse fine tooling on
the outer end of lintel 150, but noted that the other surfaces had been worked smooth
'probably by fine overall pecking with light hammers' (Atkinson 1956, 137).


Above is an interesting table showing bluestone weights of the above ground portions of the monoliths.  Elsewhere there are reports of 30% to 35% of the standing stones being beneath the ground surface, so using an average of maybe 33% the stone weights can be adjusted approximately.  

There are a number of comments about the relatively light weathering of the bluestone surfaces, and especially on dolerite surfaces.  It is assumed that some other rock types (including rhyolites and volcanic ashes) have broken up as a result of weathering -- but this is a large assumption, and it cannot be adequately demonstrated that all of the stumps were originally tall pillar-shaped monoliths -- because the debitage in general does not seem to be made up of debris coming from nearby stones.  The idea that the majority of bluestones in the bluestone circle are "regular, natural joint blocks" is wide of the mark.  Wishful thinking, methinks.  They are best described as heavily abraded boulders and slabs (and some blocky pillars) with distinct facets and rough areas resulting from fracturing during transport.

From this report and from other material coming out of the laser project, it appears that there are laser generated images of all of the Stonehenge bluestones -- but I am not aware that these have been published anywhere.





    Thursday, 7 August 2025

    Freshly quarried monoliths, or ancient glacial erratics?




    One of the most bizarre features of the glacial transport / human transport debate is the insistence of the HT advocates that the Stonehenge bluestones are freshly quarried monoliths that just happen to be somewhat weathered.  Their narrative requires quarrying from special places  -- but of course there is no evidence at all that Rhosyfelin or Carn Goedog were "special places" in Neolithic times, and neither foliated rhyolite or spotted dolerite were ever used preferentially in West Wales by the builders of the megalithic structures.  And as for the evidence of quarrying, we all know that it is so thin that it cannot withstand scrutiny, as Dyfed Elis-Gruffydd, John Downes and I demonstrated in two papers in 2015.  (For a decade, these highly inconvenient papers have been entirely ignored by MPP and his associates.  Make of that what you will.)  Indeed, our careful analysis of the "quarrying features" showed them to be entirely natural and unexceptional.  The sedimentary sequences at the two sites, and the radiocarbon age determinations, also fail to demonstrate that there ever were obvious "quarrying episodes" in the time frame desired by MPP and his colleagues.

    Now the narrative appears to incorporate other Neolithic quarries and other stone circles as yet undiscovered, at sites that are deemed  (by modern archaeologists) to have been sacred or special.  Fantasy rules, at every stage of the narrative.

    The stone provenancing work by Ixer, Bevins and associated colleagues is interesting in demonstrating a "North Preseli" connection with Stonehenge, but it is a good deal less definitive than they would have us believe, and it tells us nothing at all about how boulders, smaller stones, cobbles and fragments of many different rock types may have travelled from A to B.  It is one of the most unfortunate features of this debate that the geologists from an early stage decided to side with the HT proponents and to promote the view that GT was impossible.  It is even more unfortunate that they decided to support the view that the bluestone monoliths were taken from Neolithic bluestone quarries rather than being collected as boulders from an erratic-strewn landscape.

    So what about the Stonehenge bluestone monoliths?  As night follows day, they are obviously NOT freshly quarried blocks.  Some of them have been tooled and shaped, like the dolerites in the Bluestone Horseshoe, but to pretend that the other boulders, blocks and slabs were transported as targetted and freshly quarried blocks is to deny everything we know about weathering and erosional processes.  The facets, the abraded edges and the weathering characteristics all indicate glacial entrainment, transport in a dynamic sub-glacial or englacial environment, and long exposure to weathering processes.  By this I mean tens of thousands of years at the very least.

    It is disingenuous of the HT brigade to pretend that the rounding and weathering of the Stonehenge bluestones might have occurred over the last 5,000 years or so, and that in scale and character it is similar to that displayed on rock surfaces at Rhosyfelin and Carn Goedog and on the surfaces of the Stonehenge sarsens.  In arguing that way, they are making my point for me, since the bedrock surfaces, and the surfaces of the sarsens, are the results of very long exposure to the elements.  HH Thomas accepted this point a century ago, when he argued that the Stonehenge bluestones were not quarried but picked up from an erratic scatter somewhere on the south side of Preseli.

    It is really rather weird that the earth scientists who belong to the "group of eleven" who have so recently attacked me and my work on the Newall Boulder should apparently be so naive about the physical processes that operate on rock surfaces.  They claimed that the Newall Boulder was simply the broken off top of a rhyolite monolith which has subsequently suffered from a certain amount of weathering.  As I have demonstrated, it is a great deal more complicated than that, with both weathering and erosional features demonstrating a complex transport and emplacement history in which glacier ice almost certainly played a part. The apparent lack of clear glacial striations on the boulder cannot be used as part of an argument against glacial transport, as every glacial geomorphologist knows.

    As I have indicated in my recent publications, the shapes and surface characteristics of the Stonehenge bluestones are entirely consistent with glacial entrainment, glacial transport, dumping in locations still to be determined, and then long exposure to atmospheric weathering processes.  The boulders might even have been entrained, transported and dumped on multiple occasions.  There is a vast literature on glacially transported clasts, as demonstrated by stone shape, sphericity, surface roughness and other measures.  See the work of Prof David Evans and many others.  These are quotes from my 2024 Newall Boulder paper:

    https://doi.org/10.5194/egqsj-73-117-2024

    Clasts occupy a wide range of positions in mobile subglacial till (Evans et al., 2016, 2018). They are subject to complex transport histories that involve variable amounts of dragging, rolling and lodging, during which they are subject to surface modification through inter-clast collisions and contacts. Any single clast may be reworked numerous times during successive glaciations.  Because clasts will tend to take the line of least resistance to the flow of the surrounding deforming till matrix, facetted and bullet or wedge shapes are developed. Whenever a clast is disrupted from its lodged position, it can be subject to fresh fracturing, gradually changing its overall shape to one of a block (Boulton, 1978; Benn and Evans, 1996; Evans, 2018).  Although not all glacially transported clasts display such bullet or flat-iron shapes, such an appearance is diagnostic of significant subglacial transport (Evans, 2018; Evans et al., 2006).

    .............  Overall, the surface characteristics of this boulder suggest that it is a discrete erratic that has been  transported for much if not all of the time in a subglacial position (Benn and Ballantyne, 1994; Lukas et al., 2013; Benn and Lukas, 2021).

    It should be noted that most of the 43 bluestone “monoliths” at Stonehenge are not elongated elegant pillars (as portrayed in most reconstructions) but heavily abraded unremarkable boulders and elongated slabs. There are clearly defined facets, some of which are rough and others smooth. There are few sharp edges. The stones would not be out of place in the morainic accumulations around any glacier snout in the world (Benn and Evans, 2010, and references therein). They look like glacial erratics, and they are heavily weathered as a result of prolonged exposure (Fig. 14). On some weathered surfaces segments of the crust have peeled away and have been lost. It is probable that Stonehenge was built where the stones were found, as suggested by Judd (1903) and Field et al. (2015), and this is supported here by the preliminary analysis of the Newall Boulder.

    In addition, I have done post after post on this blog, making the point that most of the Stonehenge bluestones are not pillars, and neither are they sharp-edged quarried blocks:


    If they were quarried, they would look like the blocks in these wondrous artists impressions. The upper one was drawn to illustrate the Rhosyfelin "quarry" with the approval of MPP, for a Stonehenge exhibition in Belgium in 2018.




    Whatever the flights of fancy and scale distortions might have been in these reconstructions, the detail relating to the extracted block edges is quite correct:  they are always sharp and clearly defined.


    Next, let's look in more detail at the methods employed by geomorphologists in defining clast shapes.  In my paper on the Newall Boulder I referred to the scheme developed by Powers (1953):

    Powers, M. C.: New roundness scale for sedimentary particles, J. Sediment. Res., 23, 117–119, 1953

    https://doi.org/10.1306/ D4269567-2B26-11D7-8648000102C1865D.

    Other schemes are available. There is a vast literature, but  roundness / sphericity scales like this are frequently employed in geomorphology and petrography:

    (after Krumbein and others)

    The shape of blocks, pillars and slabs extracted from bedrock outcrops will vary according to fissures and fracture patterns within the rock; some rocks are massive and coherent, with few internal weaknesses, while others (like shales, mudstones and maybe even foliated rhyolite) will break down into slabs, sheets and plates such as we see on slate quarry spoil heaps.  We must also take account of surface roughness in assessing clast origins.  In general, quarried blocks and slabs will be classified, on this scheme, as angular, on the left edge of this diagram.  But the stonehenge bluestones occupy quite different positions on the diagram, mostly in roundness categories 0.7 (rounded) and 0.9 (well rounded) but with some fresher and rougher facets such as those observed on glacial erratics..  This is not a consequence of weathering, but an indicator of travel distance, breakage and erosion.

    Finally, there are three pieces of evidence that allow us to reject the quarrying hypothesis without further ado.

    1.  If Parker Pearson and his colleagues are to be believed, the rounding and abrasion which we see on the standing bluestones today are the result of "weathering" in the time that has elapsed between stone extraction and the present day.  That involves a fundamental misunderstanding of the word "weathering", but we'll let that pass for now.  More to the point, all of the excavations which have revealed fallen and buried bluestones suggest that they are just as abraded, rounded and weathered below ground as above ground, with some rougher surfaces on facets such as we see on glacial erratics close to current glacier fronts. That means that (with the exception of a few worked stones) their shapes were already established prior to erection in the stone settings.  That means they were not installed as fresh quarried blocks, but gathered up as weathered and abraded boulders from the landscape as suggested by HH Thomas, Kellaway, Thorpe et al, and Field.  The MPP claim that the bluestones were pre-used in lost stone circles does nothing to support the quarrying hypothesis.



    The "proto-orthostst" at Craig Rhosyfelin.  The sediments that have accumulated around and above the slab since the Early Bronze Age are clearly displayed.


    2. The famous 8-tonne proto-othostat found at Rhosyfelin and flagged up as "intended for Stonehenge" was discoverd through radiocarbon dating to have been emplaced during or later than the Bronze Age.  Some charcoal found beneath it was radiocarbon dated to the Early Bronze Age.   So it cannot possibly have had anything to do with Neolithic quarrying at the site.  But because it is a rockfall slab which has crashed down from the higher part of the rock outcrop, and because it has been there for more than 3,000 years, its condition is of considerable importance. I have analysed it in detail:  

    https://brian-mountainman.blogspot.com/2015/05/the-famous-rhosyfelin-proto-orthostat.html


    It is very fresh in its appearance, with very little rounding off of sharp edges or other weathering traces in spite of exposure to the atmosphere and to other processes during and after burial by slope deposits. This reinforces the view that the Stonehenge bluestones carry surface features that are not just 5,000 years old but are the result of tens or hundreds of thousands of years of exposure.


    Rock surfaces on the Pentre Ifan cromlech.  It is now suggested that the pillars and capstone were not buried for any great length of time.  After thousands of years of exposure to weathering, the smoothed and abraded faces, and those damaged by fracturing, are remarkably fresh.

    3.  It is instructive to  examine the surfaces of the capstones and supporting pillars of Pembrokeshire cromlechs like Pentre Ifan, Carreg Samson and  Carreg Coetan Arthur.  The stones used by the builders were all large erratics of rather local origin and collected in the neighbourhood.  The stones are weathered but in places seriously damaged by fracture scars -- in other words, the features attributable to glacial processes and periglacial modification (frost damage) are beautifully preserved.  These cromlechs are approximatelt the same age (or maybe somewhat older) as the bluestone stone settings at Stonehenge.  Over 5,500 years or so of exposure, there has been weathering, but there is no sign at all of weathering on the scale which Bevins et al (2025) require for the creation of the facets and smoothed surfaces of the Newall Boulder.

    To sum up, the bluestone quarrying hypothesis is not worth the paper it is written on, and neither is the contention that smoothed rock surfaces are the result of post-Neolithic weathering processes. 








     



    Wednesday, 6 August 2025

    The Newall Boulder -- not just weathered, but eroded



    In one media piece after another, over the past couple of weeks, on the matter of the Newall Boulder, we have seen statements like this:

    Prof Bevins and his team said most of the characteristics cited "could be simply generated by surface weathering".

    .........the new research asserts that surface markings previously believed to be glacial abrasion are more likely the result of natural weathering or ancient human handling.

    .......wear patterns cited in previous studies as resulting from glacial movement could have actually been caused by natural weathering.

    Bevins and colleagues suggest the marks on the stones were not signs of abrasion by the glacier, but were made by human hands coupled with general surface weathering instead.

    This is all very weird, and suggests that assorted senior academics do not know the difference between weathering and erosion.  Very strange, since this is one of the things that a student of O level Geography or Geology would be expected to know.  For the record, "weathering" is the term used to cover the in situ breakdown of rock surfaces as a result of physical and chemical processes.  In contrast "erosion" incorporates the movement or transport of material away from its original location, and the use of tools (sand, gravel and larger clasts) in lowering the rock surface.  There are many erosive processes, but abrasion is one of the most important, involving the grinding away of a surface of relatively soft material by ongoing contact with relatively harder "tools".  We might call it the sandpaper effect.  



    I cannot imagine why they thought this necessary, but the eleven authors of the recent Newall Boulder tirade appear to be determined to avoid any mention of erosion in their press releases and statements to the media.  So they pretend that the surface of the boulder incorporates some structural elements (describing it as a "joint block" on which all the surfaces coincide with fracture planes) but where the detailed surface characteristics are the result simply of surface weathering.

    This is  a serious misrepresentation of the situation. I stand by everything I said in my detailed analysis of the boulder surface.  One face is a fault-controlled feature with slickensides, and some of the other distinct facets may also coincide with joints or other internal weaknesses, but they are clearly abraded, and cannot be explained away as the results of weathering porocesses alone. There are also percussion fractures and fracture scars, some of which might be related to human interference.  The chatter marks are best explained by reference to subglacial processes during ice transport.  There are some slight scratches, but I have refrained from describing them as genuine striations or grooves.  In my paper I describe the weathering features as well.  They are quite complex, but quite distinct from the features associated with erosional history.

    For those who seem to be ill-informed on these matters, I can recommend a useful tome, the cover of which I reproduce below.  Other texts are also available.



    The literature:

    John, B. S. 2024: A bluestone boulder at Stonehenge: implications for the glacial transport theory,
    E&G Quaternary Sci. Journal 73, 117–134,

    https://doi.org/10.5194/egqsj-73-117-2024

    Bevins, R. E., Ixer, R. A., Pearce, N. G., Scourse, J., and Daw, T. 2023: Lithological description and provenancing of a collection of  bluestones from excavations at Stonehenge by William Hawley
    in 1924 with implications for the human versus ice transport debate of the monument’s bluestone megaliths, Geoarchaeology, 38, 771–785, 

    Richard E. Bevins, Nick J.G. Pearce, Rob A. Ixer, James Scourse, Tim Daw, Mike Parker Pearson, Mike Pitts, David Field, Duncan Pirrie, Ian Saunders, Matthew Power, 2025.  The enigmatic ‘Newall boulder’ excavated at Stonehenge in 1924: New data and correcting the record,
    Journal of Archaeological Science: Reports, Volume 66, 2025, 105303,
    ISSN 2352-409X,


    Victorian gifts: new insights into the Stonehenge bluestones
    Rob Ixer, Richard Bevins, Nick Pearce, and David Dawson explain more. 2022.
    CURRENT ARCHAEOLOGY, AUGUST 29, 2022, 5 pp

    Monday, 4 August 2025

    Streamlining, Blidö, Sweden

     

     

    Nice pic from one of my kayaking trips this summer.  There is not much doubt in this area about the direction of ice movement -- all the features associated with glacial erosion point to ice movement pretty well exactly north to south......

    Friday, 25 July 2025

    The shortcomings of the human transport hypothesis









    "Who ordered this thing? Anyway, what's it for? I reckon it will bring us far more trouble than it's worth...."


    Since some people are apparently celebrating a great victory for the human transport theory in the Bluestone Transport Stakes, let's just remind ourselves that celebrations are a little premature....

    1.  There is no sound evidence from anywhere in the British Neolithic/Bronze Age record of large stones being hauled over long distances for incorporation in a megalithic monument (Thorpe et al., 1991). Many of the claims of long-distance haulage ignore the evidence of glacial transport routes for large erratics; but some large stones might have been moved short distances prior to erection. And it is self-evident that stones were moved about in the Stonehenge area during building work.

    2.  Field observations show, consistently, that the builders of Neolithic monuments across the UK simply used whatever large stones were at hand (Burrow, 2006). The builders were pragmatists and opportunists, and they were not stupid. Thus said Stephen Briggs.

    3.  If special or sacred stones were being transported to Stonehenge, it is vanishingly unlikely that they would all have been collected in the west, to the exclusion of all other points of the compass (John, 2018a).

    4.  There is no convincing evidence either from West Wales or from anywhere else of bluestones (for example foliated rhyolite or spotted dolerite) being used preferentially in megalithic monuments or revered in any way (Darvill and Wainwright, 2016). 
     
    5.  If long-distance stone haulage was an “organised activity” for the builders of Stonehenge, it is noteworthy that there is no evidence of the development of an appropriate haulage technology leading up to the Late Neolithic and a decline afterwards. In other words, there is no sign of any diffusion of innovation (Rogers, 2003).

    6.  The evidence for quarrying activity in key Preseli locations is questionable (John et al., 2015b). No archaeological or cultural links have been established between Stonehenge and the proposed “quarries” at Craig Rhos-y-felin and Carn Goedog.

    7.  The sheer variety of bluestone types argues against human selection and transport. There cannot possibly have been multiple “bluestone monolith quarries” scattered across West Wales (Thorpe et al., 1991).

    8.  No physical evidence has ever been found of ropes, rollers, trackways, sledges, abandoned stones, quarry worker camps or anything else that might bolster the hypothesis (Kellaway, 1971). Bevins et al (2025) might argue that these thngs were ephemeral and were unlikely to survive for 5,000 years or more -- but this argument is no more convincing than mine when I say that ancient glacial deposits might exist, degraded and still undiscovered....

    9.  Experimental archaeology on stone haulage techniques (normally in “ideal” conditions) has done nothing to show that our ancestors could cope with the sheer physical difficulty of stone haulage across the heavily wooded Neolithic terrain of West Wales (characterised by bogs, cataracts, steep slopes and very few clearings) or around the rocky coast. Burl (2007) made this point forcefully, and it remains forceful today.

    10.  No convincing evidence has ever been found of a “proto-Stonehenge” in West Wales, built of assorted local stones that were dismantled and taken off to Stonehenge. Mike Parker Pearson's claim that a “giant stone circle” at Waun Mawn in Mynydd Preseli was the source and the inspiration for Stonehenge has been criticised by Darvill (2022) and others and has now been abandoned (Bevins et al., 2022).


    There are other problems too, of which more anon.........

    Wednesday, 23 July 2025

    According to the Daily Mail......

    Photography as a substitute for science.......

     https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-14928191/Stonehenge-mystery-SOLVED-boulder-transported.html

    Shock!  Horror!  Stonehenge mystery finally SOLVED!   For the first time this month......

    Note the capital letters.

    So if it's in the Daily Mail, it must be true.  This time, the truth seems to be that the glacial transport theory is dead.  Not so long ago it was the human transport theory that was dead.  The truth does not last long in fhe media.  But we knew that already.

    Anyway, the paper -- like assorted other media outlets -- has picked up on the latest press release from Bevins et al (2025), issued in a feverish attempt to dismiss my work on the Newall Boulder and to prove that the glacial transport theory is dead.  Hmmm.  As Mark Twain might have said, reports of its death have been grossly exaggerated.........

    Here are a few thoughts on the newsaper article -- and by implication, on the linked press release.

    At the outset, we see this claim:  Bevins et al concluded that "there is no evidence to support the interpretation that it (the Newall Boulder) is a glacial erratic.".  That is an absurd claim.  "Evidence" is defined as facts or information brought forward to support or refute a claim, idea or hypothesis.  As a matter of fact there is abundant evidence in the literature in support of the glacial erratic interpretation.  Whether Bevins et al support it or reject it is another matter entirely.  If they believe that the evidence is unconvincing, that is what they should have said.

    As is already apparent, I happen to find the evidence presented in their latest paper defective in a number of respects, as I will shortly explain. They should accept that with good grace.

    The Newall Boulder (NB) is a precise match for the unique characteristics of rocks from Craig Rhosyfelin.?  No it isn't.  For a start, it looks different, which explains why it has been described by other geologists as an "ignimbrite" and as a strongly welded acid vitric tuff.  The "matching" presented in the paper by Bevins et al (2025) involves a highly biased and selective presentation of evidence, and the geologists involved have still not demonstrated that the characteristics of the Rhosyfelin foliated ryolite are totally unique to that site, since the density of the sampling points and the range of their fieldwork in the area are far from adequate.

    There are columns of foliated rhyolite at Rhosyfelin which have bullet-shaped or rounded tops similar to that of the NB?  Well, there is very little in the way of columnar jointing at the site.  And rounded and abraded surfaces on the higher parts of the crag are replicated on almost all of the tors of Preseli, and are interpreted by me and other geomorphologists as indicative of glacial or fluvioglacial abrasion in the past.  This tells us nothing about the provenance of the boulder, and it is disingenuous to pretend otherwise.

    There is evidence of stone quarrying at the Rhosyfelin site?  So Bevins et al would have us believe -- but they might have had the good grace to acknowledge that their evidence has been hotly disputed since 2015.  And readers deserve to know that until now Bevins and his colleagues have refused to cite the peer-reviewed studies that draw concusions that are at odds with their own.  That in itself is enough to destroy their credibility as "experts".

    The NB surface is rich in calcium carbonate deposits?  This suggests long burial either at stonehenge oft elsewhere.  On that we agree.  But I cannot for the life of me see how that reinforces the idea of human transport!  On the contrary, it provides strong support for everything i have said about the glacial transport and dumping of erratic materials from west to east.

    It is claimed that if a glacier had carried the NB from West Wales to Salisbury Plain, or near it, it would have also left a scatter of similar stones across the region.   That is a fair point, but we still do not know how extensive the ice cover was, or what the glaciological conditions might have been.  There are erratics dotted about all over Salisbury Plain, as itemised by Thorpe et al in 1991, and it is worth reminding ourselves that only 50% of the stone settings part of Stonehenge has ever been excavated.   Therefore all statements by Ixer, Bevins and other about the frequency or type of rock fragments at the site will in due course have to be substantially revised.

    BLUESTONE 32d -- new analysis shows it to be a foliated rhyolite like that of the NB?  This is a lie.  The stump that was revealed in old excavations was photographed, but not sampled.  So all we have is a speculation, based on a photograph.  This is slapdash and misleading science -- as we saw some months ago when a lump of rock bought in a rock shop in Whitby was used as a surrogate in a study of the Altar Stone.  In the eyes of many this seriously devalued the study and increased scepticism about its results.

    Are  there  80 bluestones at Stonehenge?  This is often claimed.  But there are in fact only 43 monoliths and stumps, and in the view of the present author it is most likely that the planned stone monument was never completed.....

    The image of a "typical collection of rock fragments" at Stonehenge.  This is worthless, since a collection and display of stone chips is exactly what it says it is.  It has no value as a piece of scientific information.  Other stone shapes are available at Stonehenge, but as far as I am aware, there has never been a controlled study of stone shapes in or beyond the stone settings.

    Come to think of it, on the matter of stone shapes, has anybody ever looked at the full assemblage of Stonehenge monoliths and said "These stones were most certainly all quarried!". On the contrary, whenever I have asked geomorphologist colleagues about this, the response has always been "These stones are most certainly NOT quarried..........". That, of course, is, in my humble opinion, because they are all glacial erratics.

    The Daily Mail article ends with a statement to the effect that "John's arguments have no basis in evidence.  To present it as fact, rather than hypothesis, is disingenuous."

    That is all absurd.  I have never pretended that my conclusions are facts rather than opinions.  Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.......




    Tim's Tiresome Triumphalist Tirades



     Here we go again.  Our old friend Tim Daw has taken to the media again to gleefully announce to the world -- or to his small part of it -- that the bluestone glacial transport hypothesis is dead.  His somewhat misplaced confidence is all based on the new article by the "gang of eleven" about the Newall Boulder, which I will deal with in due course.  Tim clearly thinks the article is the last word on the matter of glacial transport, demonstrating that he knows remarkably little about either the literature or the science.  He's clearly the stooge here -- but I wonder who put him up to it?

    He has made some rather excitable pronouncements on Twitter (now X) which I can't get at since Mr Musk has decided that I am not a bona fide follower or disciple.  Something about the new paper "refuting any glacial transport"...........

    Then on his blog he maintains his attack, using rather intemperate language.  Most of his posts pass me by, but I do read some of them. But he never, as far as I can see, allows dissent or discussion on his blog, and that point alone says everything we need to know.  It's all froth.....

    His latest stunt involves an unattributed opinion on my recent post about the modelling of the British and Irish Ice sheet.  He puts the "opinion" in quotes, to show that the words are not his, but there is no way that the words are going to be taken seriously by me or anybody else, since they come from somebody hiding behind a cloak of anonymity. 

    More serious is Tim's use of Researchgate in an attempt to give his outpourings a degree of "scientific respectability".  I have already pointed out his very dodgy use of AI on Researchgate as a substitude for individual academic scrutiny -- I am surprised that the moderators have allowed him to get away with it.  His latest piece, for which he claims authorship, has the grandiose title :  "The Demise of the Glacial Transport Theory for Stonehenge's Magaliths."  It's a short opinion piece, perhaps better defined as a personal attack, and I will of course respond to it when the tools of the trade are more readily to hand. (I'm on holiday in Sweden at the moment, dealing with the peculiarities of an iPad.......)





    Monday, 21 July 2025

    Washed surfaces and ice-transported boulders

     

     

    Shoreline nwith a heavy concentration of erratic boulders on the coast of Granöören, near the eastern tip of Blidö, Stockholm Archipelago.  The coastline here is cut into a thick deposit of till, and the fines have been washed out by wave action.  When a "stillstand" occurs, with a rough equivalence of eustatic sea level rise and isostatic recovery rate, the concentration of boulders on the shoreline may be more pronounced.

    I am intrigued that the geologists and geomorphologists who are "embedded" in the Stonehenge establishment still apparently believe that the big boulders dotted around the coasts of the Bristol Channel were transported by  floating sea ice and icebergs rather than by glacier ice.  This flies in the face of everything we know about glacial processes and about the Pleistocene history of the region, since nobody has yet demonstrated that the relative  positions of global sea level and the Bristol Channel coasts were close to those of today at a time when debris-laden icebergs could have been grounded between the tide marks.  On the contrary, on those occasions when ice-rafted debris might have been moved about in the channel, relative sea level must have been far below that of the present day, and the coastline must have been many miles away from its present position.   To argue that isostatic depression of the landmass caused the coastline to sink by an amount precisely equivalent to the eustatic sea level fall involves special pleading -- and there is no evidence to support it.

    I am genuinely at a loss to understand what is to be gained by the continued promotion of the lRD (ice rafted debris) hypothesis, unless you want to fly in the face of the evidence and pretend (for rather obvious reasons) that the coasts of Devon and Cornwall were never glaciated.........

    I am reminded of this rather silly argument every time I paddle the kayak around the coasts of the Stockholm Archipelago, which were once submerged beneath 100m or more of sea water.  The boulder-lined shorelines that we see everywhere are all the products of wave sapping of rock surfaces and exposed glacial sediments.  Wave action across a relatively narrow vertical range of a metre or two (there are no tides in the Baltic) removes all the finer materials -- clay, silt, sand and gravel -- and leaves behind the cobbles and the boulders.   If you tried to suggest to any Swedish geomorphologist that ice- rafting had anything at all to do with the presence of these big boulders, you would be laughed out of court.

    So can we just have a bit of common sense here?