Why Did the Welsh Bury Their Dead at Stonehenge?
Just when we thought that the story about the wacky scientists and their cremated bones could not get any more bonkers -- it did just that. Read this, dear friends, and cringe -- or weep for the demise of science.......
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/why-did-welsh-bury-their-dead-stonehenge-180969874/
If you cannot face the prospect of reading the original, the text is reproduced below. It's clear that journalists do not read "learned" articles any longer -- they just read press releases, and other articles written by other hacks. Then they try to find a new angle, as summarised in the headline for this piece.
Just a gentle reminder for those of us who retain some sort of sanity -- there is no scientific evidence for any people from Wales being either buried or cremated at Stonehenge. The best that can be said from the evidence contained in that NATURE article is that some of the cremated bones found in Aubrey Hole 7 belonged to individuals who came from somewhere to the west -- or SW or NW -- of Salisbury Plain. Maybe they came from less than 60 miles away, in western Wiltshire or eastern Somerset -- the strontium isotope ratio "signatures" allow no precise provenancing, and there is no evidence at all of a Welsh connection. Neither is there any reason to think that the cremated bones had anything to do with bluestones, or quarries, or the building of the monument.
But of course, the claims made in the press releases and in comments from some of the authors of the piece were made perfectly cynically, with the express purpose of promoting a wildly speculative hypothesis. But now the story has legs, as they say in the trade. Who knows where it will go next.......
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Why Did the Welsh Bury Their Dead at Stonehenge?
Study suggests cremated remains found at the site belong to outsiders who may have brought stones from Welsh quarry, aided monument’s construction
By Meilan Solly
SMITHSONIAN.COM
AUGUST 6, 2018 12:45PM
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Most know Stonehenge for its circle of towering, seemingly immovable monoliths, but perhaps lesser known is that during the site’s early days, it mainly functioned as a cemetery. Thousands of years after the first interments at Stonehenge, the dead are finally revealing their secrets—and, according to a new study published in Scientific Reports, the biggest revelation is that many of those buried at the site originally came from some 140 miles away in western Wales.
The researchers, led by Christophe Snoeck, a post-doctoral researcher at Brussels’ Vrije University, found that 10 of the 25 individuals tested could not have lived exclusively in Stonehenge for the last ten years of their lives. Instead, the team suggests, the deceased originated in Wales, a neighboring region believed to have provided the site’s bluestones—smaller, non-native rocks nicknamed for the blue hue evident when they are wet or broken.
The Washington Post’s Ben Guarino writes that Snoeck and his colleagues cannot definitively prove that the Welsh individuals buried at Stonehenge were the ones responsible for the bluestones’ delivery and subsequent construction. However, the remains, which date to about 3000 through 2500 B.C.E, appear to coincide with the estimated time period of the monument’s early construction.
“The earliest dates are tantalizingly close to the date we believe the bluestones arrived, and though we cannot prove they are the bones of the people who brought them, there must at least be a relationship,” co-author John Pouncett tells Kennedy. “The range of dates raises the possibility that for centuries people could have been brought to Stonehenge for burial with the stones.”
The Guardian’s Maev Kennedy reports that the researchers used strontium isotope analysis—a technique that relies on the study of strontium, a heavy alkaline earth metal that leaves its signature in geological formations and soil—to study the remains of between 10 and 25 individuals cremated and then interred at Stonehenge. Although cremation destroys all organic matter, including DNA, the process can also crystallize bones, sealing in their isotypes and enabling inorganic matter to survive the flames.
According to The Los Angeles Times’ Deborah Netburn, scientists can determine a human or animal’s place of origin by building a profile of strontium isotope ratios across a given geographic area and comparing this data with the strontium found in bone fragments.
“Strontium isotope analysis has been used for decades to reveal the mobility of human and fauna, but exclusively on unburned material,” Snoeck tells Netburn.
It’s been nearly 100 years since archaeologists first uncovered cremated remains at the site. During the 1920s, researchers excavating a series of Aubrey holes, named after the 17th-century antiquarian who initially discovered them, identified 58 Neolithic-era individuals buried in 56 of the pits. Believing the cremated remains to be of little value, they reburied the jumble of bone fragments in one Aubrey hole.
Guarino reports that the remains were re-excavated in 2008. Christie Willis, a Ph.D. student at University College London’s Institute of Archaeology, began separating the fragments and ultimately identified the 25 sets of remains used in the new study.
It’s unclear whether the Welsh cremated their dead near the Stonehenge site or closer to home, but CNN’s Ashley Strickland writes that the latter is more probable. Colonel William Hawley, the archaeologist behind the 1920s excavations, stated that some of the remains were found in leather bags, suggesting they “had apparently been brought from a distant place”—likely by those bringing bluestones to the site or otherwise aiding construction—for interment.
Moving forward, Snoeck plans on studying cremated remains found across the globe. “They’ve been kind of forgotten and put aside,” he tells Guarino. “And I thought that was quite sad, because [in] huge parts of the world, people were cremated.”
Read more: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/why-did-welsh-bury-their-dead-stonehenge-180969874/#ZOE2Io8bogSiyYJl.99
NO comment!!***!!
ReplyDeleteThey're coming to take us away, ho ho, they're coming to take us away.....presumab;ly to Stonehenge, whether or not we're living in Pembrokeshire......
MPP has released his Beast from the East, I suggest, just in time for his Boys & Girls to arrive in the Preselis in September replete with mammoth tales of daring do by our Neolithic forebears.
Oh what a tangled web they weave, those who practise to DECEIVE.....
I'm off to lie down in a darkened room (again), Dear Reader.
There are just too many corrupt and crooked scientists! A good example is the current heat wave! Corrupt scientists provided corrupt fossil fuel company directors, financiers and the politicians who're in their pocket, with the data interpretation you want for cash service, that was the grounds for there being no man made climate change! These corrupt individuals have probably cost the human race 30-40 years in the battle to halt catastrophic climate change! Their corrupt acts may even prove to be ultimately responsible for the extinction of the Human Race!
ReplyDeleteQ: should these scientists be strung up with piano wire?
A: yes if there was any justice in the world!
And then today we get would - be Prime Minister, Boris Whassisname, coming out with pathetic and insulting remarks about what Moslem women wear. Theresa M should find him a solidly - built Naughty Step to stand on for several months.....
ReplyDelete..........and, of course, The Smithsonian Institute over in the USA is already heavily linked with MPP & his Merry Men & Women, as this Blog has demonstrated in the past. Try putting its name into the Search Box on this Blog and all will no doubt be revealed....
It's all getting too much like George Orwell's 1984 and Aldous Huxley's Brave New World, folks....
This Smithsonian Magazine Post Brian has put up mentions Maev Kennedy in the Guardian. This is worth reading if you are made of strong stuff for fantasyland. She quotes MPP as saying Neolithic folk didn't move megaliths more than 5 miles, but on this occasion they have moved them 180 miles from The Preseli Hills. NO ifs and buts, they moved them!!! Despite the fact of MPP delicately stating that "180 MILES IS A BLOODY LONG WAY!".
ReplyDeleteThis man survives in his own Archaeology Bubble sustained only by his belief in superlative mega - feats of bluestone orthostat transportation. His favourite song must be "To Dream The impossible Dream" by Matt Monro (what a Singer, what a Song, as Don Black tells us on Radio 2 Sundays at 11 a.m.). And the punters STILL keep coming in, to hear MPP's Tales of Phenomenal Feats in the Abnormal Neolithic as envisaged by Our Hero of Today.
Yes, the latest feats of Indiana Jones (or was it Crocodile Dundee?) and his merry men will be related to a packed out audience at Castell Henllys on successive evenings in late September. The National Park is confident that the room will be filled twice, such will be the demand. It is confidently predicted that Proto-Stonehenge will be described in all its glory, although the field research has not yet been done. What the hell -- decide on your conclusions first, and then go out and dig up some suitable "evidence" to support them......... so much simpler than embarking on research which is weighed down by uncertainty.
ReplyDeleteAh yes, Maev Kennedy......... she's the one who has confidently informed the world that the glacial transport theory has now been abandoned, following the discovery of those jolly quarries at Rhosyfelin and Carn Goedog. She of course takes her advice from the most reliable of sources......
ReplyDeleteIf MPP and co. cannot be trusted to conduct thorough scientific research, and are guilty of elaboration when it comes the transportation of the bluestones.Why believe any of his work at Stonehenge?Perhaps the whole story is a pure fabrication, to create the myth the pseudo academics can milk for years to come.
ReplyDeleteRe: Maev Kennedy see this thread on twitter where she makes a rare appearance sayign "thank heavens I didn't use the word "solved...":
ReplyDeletehttps://twitter.com/pittsmike/status/1025094228999905282
Mike Pitts is pretty sceptical to be fair - whether he follows this up in British Archaeology we shall have to see
A commenter: The media 'rewriting the history books' again?
Mike Pitts: Surprisingly perhaps it’s more about the academic paper than the media
Mike usefully gave the title of the Nature press release which allowed me to find it.
Some Stonehenge burials may have Welsh origin
http://www.natureasia.com/en/research/highlight/12628
they just say 'most likely west Wales'
but then the rather dodgy bit is:
"The other remains indicate the pyre wood was grown in dense woodlands like those found in west Wales. "
Which sounds like gratuitous nonsense!
This would appear to be word for word from the University of Oxford press release
https://www.heritagedaily.com/2018/08/new-light-shed-on-the-people-who-built-stonehenge/121273
which indeed it is!
http://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2018-08-02-new-light-shed-people-who-built-stonehenge#
Andy
...lots more from Mike Pitts here, including him making the same point as yourself with the isotope map
ReplyDeletehttps://twitter.com/pittsmike/status/1025359779668131841
Follow Mike Pitts, archaeologist and editor of British Archaeology magazine, over matters Stonehenge, and see whether HE sounds more objective than most of the Stonehenge archaeologist - clan (........I'm going to!!):-
ReplyDeletehttps://twitter.com/pittsmike?lang=en
Andy Burnham:
ReplyDeleteThe problem is that Brian has made a good case against the findings of MPP at Rhosyfelin since the quarrying nonsense started! Including arranging for, a proper independent analysis of the quaternary deposits at Rhosyfelin by suitably qualified scientists! this work resulted in the publication of a properly peer reviewed scientific paper in the well respected Journal of Quaternary Science! The paper demonstrated that the Quarrying findings of MPP were bullshit! To my knowledge Pitts has published no reference to this paper in "British Archaeology" and no criticism of MPP's Quarrying hypothesis!
Surely the editor of such an influential journal should be independent and report any relevant work on the subject? particularly work that has been properly conducted and peer reviewed?
This work was also by now conducted a few years ago! No reference whatsoever? It gives the appearance that Pitts and MPP are in the same CLUB!?
Can you offer an alternative explanation for Pitts not publishing any reference to Brian and his colleagues work Andy?
RE: Maev Kennedy using the phrase "Thank heavens I didn't use the words solved" Not because she has any interest whatsoever in scientific truth, but merely because she almost got caught with her pants round her ankles! Journalistically speaking of course!
ReplyDeleteAlex -- actually there are TWO peer-reviewed papers in which Dyfed, John and I examine the sedimentary sequence and landforms at Rhosyfelin. One is in Archaeology in Wales, and the other is in Quaternary News, which is the peer-reviewed house journal for Quaternary specialists who belong to the Quaternary Research Association. There is a complete conspiracy of silence in the archaeological brotherhood (and sisterhood) -- they are all in a state of denial about the existence of these papers. That;s insulting to the three of us who wrote the papers -- we know what we are talking about, and we have had our findings confirmed by many other senior geologists and geomorphologists who have visited the site when the excavation pits were still open. NONE of them, as far as I can see, thinks there is a Neolithic quarry there. But is is also plain stupid of the archaeologists to pretend that these two papers do not exist. It simply tells the rest of the world that they are not scientists, and that they do not know anything about the conventions of serious academic publishing.
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