tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1228690739485734684.post7851119014791931279..comments2024-03-28T22:13:17.139+00:00Comments on Stonehenge and the Ice Age: The dressing of the bluestonesBRIAN JOHNhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00413447032454568083noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1228690739485734684.post-66921299587354809262018-07-27T19:24:05.158+01:002018-07-27T19:24:05.158+01:00How many of these "hammer stones" and &q...How many of these "hammer stones" and "mauls" started out as rounded glacial erratics pebbles and rocks?Alex Geenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1228690739485734684.post-43064799495746313062018-07-17T21:53:09.462+01:002018-07-17T21:53:09.462+01:00I wonder how many of the hammer stones and mauls e...I wonder how many of the hammer stones and mauls etc are stored at the Salisbury Museum.TonyHnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1228690739485734684.post-69351922880773280022018-07-16T17:12:01.171+01:002018-07-16T17:12:01.171+01:00Well, that’s perfectly possible, but it’s also pos...Well, that’s perfectly possible, but it’s also possible that much of this debris has come from the destruction of smaller stones which were inconvenient in the sense that they were not big enough to serve as monoliths. If there really was a glacial deposit — maybe a moraine, and maybe not — there must have been erratic stones of all sizes, ranging from gravel to pebbles and cobbles. The hammer stones, mauls and packing stones that litter the site have never, to the best of my knowledge, been systematically analysed. What are their sizes? What are their shapes? What are their lithologies? They have always, during digs, been thrown onto spoil heaps because nobody has been very interested in them — but they may hold the key to the riddle........<br /><br />Ixer and Bevins haven’t taken these packing stones and stone clutter very seriously either, concentrating instead on the chips and flakes in the debitage and assuming that the bigger stones (many of which are more than 50 cms long, with interesting shapes) are adventitious or late introductions of no importance. I have argued with Rob about this on many occasions....BRIAN JOHNhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00413447032454568083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1228690739485734684.post-55841874358705247742018-07-16T15:32:54.060+01:002018-07-16T15:32:54.060+01:00Not sure, Brian, how you, as a glacial transport p...Not sure, Brian, how you, as a glacial transport proponent, are explaining the issue that "much of the debitage studied does not come from known standing stones"? Is it your contention that a lot of the this remainder debitage is from the so - called "bluestones" that are not standing and that have not yet been sampled?TonyHnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1228690739485734684.post-57663383058901636382018-07-15T21:29:22.140+01:002018-07-15T21:29:22.140+01:00As regards JAMES SCOURSE and that Conan - Doyle qu...As regards JAMES SCOURSE and that Conan - Doyle quotation mentioned in previous comments, here are his current academic details. He doesn't appeared to have said anything about the Preseli to Stonehenge Human Transport claim since 1997.<br /><br />JAMES SCOURSE Professor of Physical Geography, University of Exter, tel 01326 - 371883.<br />Email JScourse@exeter.ac.uk TonyHnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1228690739485734684.post-33950780370312643572018-07-15T08:55:19.125+01:002018-07-15T08:55:19.125+01:00Thanks Paul. Yes, that’s a useful report. I thin...Thanks Paul. Yes, that’s a useful report. I think we have discussed it before. It doesn't really move us forward much, although there is an interesting discussion on whether Stonehenge was ever completed - <br /><br />http://research.historicengland.org.uk/Report.aspx?i=15106<br />BRIAN JOHNhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00413447032454568083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1228690739485734684.post-29378225315399664322018-07-15T05:02:28.245+01:002018-07-15T05:02:28.245+01:00Since this discussion concerns the Dressing of the...Since this discussion concerns the Dressing of the Bluestones,I though it maybe of interest to the readers to post a link to the report "Stonehenge Laser Scan: Archaeological Analysis"(http://research.historicengland.org.uk/Report.aspx?i=15106).<br /><br />This report attempts to explains the different techniques used to "Dress" both the Sarsen and Bluestones. <br /><br />Regards<br />Paul<br /><br />RackRunnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16498019817318199327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1228690739485734684.post-20187597787506736092018-07-12T08:44:55.594+01:002018-07-12T08:44:55.594+01:00Well, there you go! As I have also quoted from son...Well, there you go! As I have also quoted from songwriter Paul Simon many times on the Blog, a Man sees what he wants to see and disregards the rest! [from 'The Boxer']<br /><br />What your new book, The stonehenge Bluestones, requires of those in its audience who are prepared to be intelligent and discerning, is HUMILITY AND THEN FLEXIBILITY OF MIND AND WILLINGNESS TO BE CHALLENGED BY NEW EVIDENCE; AND ALSO REVELATION OF LACK OF EVIDENCE.TonyHnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1228690739485734684.post-20459447752570259632018-07-11T22:24:48.480+01:002018-07-11T22:24:48.480+01:00It is somewhat ironic that that’s the very quote t...It is somewhat ironic that that’s the very quote that James Scourse used in support of the human transport hypothesis back in 1997, when he argued that since glacial transport of the bluestones was impossible, the alternative hypothesis was the one to go for! His reasoning was based upon a series of assumptions about the behaviour of glacier ice which I found very strange indeed,BRIAN JOHNhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00413447032454568083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1228690739485734684.post-49889976753496131442018-07-11T15:08:17.433+01:002018-07-11T15:08:17.433+01:00"How often have I said to you that when you h..."How often have I said to you that when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth?"<br /><br />ARTHUR CONAN DOYLE, The Sign of The Four".TonyHnoreply@blogger.com