tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1228690739485734684.post5321339064525275582..comments2024-03-28T14:00:12.372+00:00Comments on Stonehenge and the Ice Age: Stonehenge and the Pont Ceunant MoraineBRIAN JOHNhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00413447032454568083noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1228690739485734684.post-10032133956377801982010-05-05T21:24:38.140+01:002010-05-05T21:24:38.140+01:00Jameson Land -- 6th Dec 2009:
http://brian-mountai...Jameson Land -- 6th Dec 2009:<br />http://brian-mountainman.blogspot.com/2009/12/lessons-from-jameson-land.html<br /><br />Scroll through the list on the right.<br /><br />I don't like using the word "impossible" -- but sadly, your theory does NOT explain all the other enigmas of Stonehenge. There is a mountain of evidence militating against ice on Salisbury Plain 20,000 years ago. I think I accept most of it. Please go off and read the Geological Conservation Review for SW England -- it's a big book -- and then come back to this issue. The selective plucking of evidence -- and the wilful neglect of large areas of "inconvenient" evidence -- is unscientific. What I am trying to do is examine the pros and cons as honestly as I can, with a hope of eventually getting to the truth.BRIAN JOHNhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00413447032454568083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1228690739485734684.post-42905718611298954682010-05-05T21:06:50.893+01:002010-05-05T21:06:50.893+01:00Thanks Brian. And be sure you made your position a...Thanks Brian. And be sure you made your position about ice cover of Salisbury Plain 20,000 years ago very clear to me! But from what you have said in this and previous posts, the 'evidence' against NOT being an ice cover at Salisbury Plain during Stonehenge construction is VERY SOFT! Basically, the argument goes like this: “we don't have firm evidence that there was an ice cover at Salisbury Plain 20,000 ago, therefore there was no ice cover 20,000 years ago!” The softeness of the argument that there was no ice cover, in combination with the ability of this theory to explain ALL OTHER ENIGMAS OF STONEHENGE makes for a strong logical argument that there was ice when Stonehenge was made. The exact time may be unknown and cover a very broad period going back to early Paleolithic period. But as long as there were local people and there was ice cover my explanation works.<br /><br />Brian, the many stone alignments and stone circles in the UK and in Brittany are incredible 'prehistoric writings' left behind by our ancestors to tell us geological conditions back then. This story should fascinate scientists and common people more than the fabricated mysteries build up over Stonehenge! I shiver just thinking about this! (maybe it's the ice!)<br /><br />I think you should re-read my paper, “The un-Henging of Stonehenge” http://knol.google.com/k/constantinos-ragazas/the-un-henging-of-stonehenge/ql47o1qdr604/16#<br /><br />PS Where can I find your entry on Jameson Land that you mentioned in your post?<br /><br />Constantinos RagazasConstantinos Ragazashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11368374316165533910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1228690739485734684.post-38465292600554977592010-05-05T16:10:05.484+01:002010-05-05T16:10:05.484+01:00This is one of the great questions of glacial geom...This is one of the great questions of glacial geomorphology! See my entry on Jameson Land a while back......<br /><br />Cold-based ice frozen to a glacier bed can have a protective rather than an erosive role -- so in theory quite complex sediments (including peats and other "soft" materials) might be frozen solid, effectively transformed into rock, and then left largely unmodified after the ice has come and gone.<br /><br />So we might get areas where there are "free boulders" left as erratics with no other glacial traces in the neighbourhood -- or even quite fragile tors surviving where there has been no "streaming" of the ice. But to be sure of ice coming and going with virtually no effect upon the landscape, you would need to assemble info from many different disciplines -- and there would have to be some info somewhere -- eg in the pollen record -- to demonstrate a slide to glacial conditions and then a recovery afterwards.<br /><br />I see where you are coming from and heading towards, Kostas -- but I would still be very wary of talking about ice on Salisbury plain 20,000 years ago!!BRIAN JOHNhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00413447032454568083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1228690739485734684.post-6039147967181545202010-05-05T01:59:11.963+01:002010-05-05T01:59:11.963+01:00Brian, I have a question.
In your opinion, is it ...Brian, I have a question. <br />In your opinion, is it possible for an ice sheet to melt in place without ice flow and not leave behind any tale-tale traces of it being there?Constantinos Ragazashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11368374316165533910noreply@blogger.com