tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1228690739485734684.post4994009565764640562..comments2024-03-28T22:13:17.139+00:00Comments on Stonehenge and the Ice Age: The other Bedd yr Afanc legendBRIAN JOHNhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00413447032454568083noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1228690739485734684.post-43610094164667147932012-02-23T17:09:25.019+00:002012-02-23T17:09:25.019+00:00hagetegFantastic...plan to visit soon and will tak...hagetegFantastic...plan to visit soon and will take photos for my website....markguestphotographyMark Guesthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08406100205504911572noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1228690739485734684.post-17516911043472968082012-02-15T16:18:00.752+00:002012-02-15T16:18:00.752+00:00Yes -- Garnwen. Never been there myself -- maybe ...Yes -- Garnwen. Never been there myself -- maybe one day I'll pop over and take a look.....BRIAN JOHNhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00413447032454568083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1228690739485734684.post-79559767377330945822012-02-15T16:13:24.603+00:002012-02-15T16:13:24.603+00:00Fascinating idea. Evidence on the ground would be...Fascinating idea. Evidence on the ground would be a big discovery - potential link with the Boyne and with a well-established myth. I suppose you are referring to Garnwen?<br /><br />it would also be interesting to see the notes of WF Grimes if they still exist.<br /><br />If I lived closer I would be taking a walk up there looking for white pebbles and my wife would think I had finally gone completely nuts.chris johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16210890033354730381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1228690739485734684.post-43055832778659746592012-02-15T15:42:45.082+00:002012-02-15T15:42:45.082+00:00Ho Chris
Actually I'm quite enjoying the peac...Ho Chris<br /><br />Actually I'm quite enjoying the peace and quiet. Nothing contentious at the moment -- all harmony and light.<br /><br />What does intrigue me more than a little is the reference in the first Bedd yr Afanc legend to the local people throwing in white stones on top of the Afanc while he was digging his deep hole. Put this together with the reference to that site where white stones are scattered around on the ground -- see my post of the other day. Natural outcrop of a quartz vein maybe -- but in some of the bays between Newport and Cwm yr Eglwys the beaches are literally covered with beautiful white pebbles. Easy to collect and very pretty. Could the locals in Neolithic times have valued those white stones as ornamental features? Echoes of Newgrange. Could the legend of the people throwing white stones onto the Afanc be a distant folk memory of a lot of white stones lying around on the ground around the ruinous Bedd yr Afanc?BRIAN JOHNhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00413447032454568083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1228690739485734684.post-24255301562992632042012-02-15T15:32:44.224+00:002012-02-15T15:32:44.224+00:00Gone a bit quiet here so I'll inject a mytholo...Gone a bit quiet here so I'll inject a mythological hypothesis. With Rhos-y-felin being a gateway to the underworld, is this the real reason the rhyolites were destroyed at the Stonehenge solar temple? A 23rd century BC version of Tom Robinson?chris johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16210890033354730381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1228690739485734684.post-13338041923071459742012-02-13T13:06:07.821+00:002012-02-13T13:06:07.821+00:00Thanks for this ref, Chris. I had not seen this C...Thanks for this ref, Chris. I had not seen this CADW report before -- full of fascinating info! Will digest and report further....BRIAN JOHNhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00413447032454568083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1228690739485734684.post-23332390788573525772012-02-13T12:29:07.174+00:002012-02-13T12:29:07.174+00:00See page 29 of the Cadw document (2010) with photo...See page 29 of the Cadw document (2010) with photo. PRN96872. I suspect you will concur that the site is open to multiple interpretations; the long barrow idea reportedly originates from Spaces 2003.chris johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16210890033354730381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1228690739485734684.post-85205433838705841592012-02-13T11:21:31.112+00:002012-02-13T11:21:31.112+00:00Thanks Chris -- these are grey areas -- when does ...Thanks Chris -- these are grey areas -- when does a long chambered tomb become a passage grave or a gallery grave? Which site are you referring to, 3 km to the east?<br /><br />Yes, WF Grimes (not Peter) excavated Bedd yr Afanc and published on it in 1939 -- but he found very little.BRIAN JOHNhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00413447032454568083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1228690739485734684.post-14011880892383987312012-02-13T11:10:01.187+00:002012-02-13T11:10:01.187+00:00Thank you for telling the tales of the Afanc.
I ...Thank you for telling the tales of the Afanc. <br /><br />I don't know whether this is the only long chambered tomb in Wales - according to a superb recent piece of work by Dyfed Archaelogical trust funded by Cadw (www.cpat.org.uk/research) there could be another some 3 kms Eastward, and Chris Barker made mention of 50 chambered tombs in Pembs and Camarthen of which 31 were still extant in 1992.<br /><br />Apparently Peter Grimes excavated at Beddr yr Afanc in the thirties and the results are unpublished as far as I know - perhaps he did not find anything worth writing about, but a shame nevertheless.<br /><br />The Cadw work is fascinating and shows the extent of ancient remains, especially around Carn Alw and Carn Ingli.chris johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16210890033354730381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1228690739485734684.post-1438115695185121722012-02-13T09:01:13.166+00:002012-02-13T09:01:13.166+00:00Yes -- it is a sad tale. Monsters always have a ...Yes -- it is a sad tale. Monsters always have a hard time of it -- having studied them quite carefully over the years, I find that they are not necessarily EVIL -- it's just that they have bad social and eating habits, which leads to them being sadly misunderstood....BRIAN JOHNhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00413447032454568083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1228690739485734684.post-80550480466846879232012-02-13T00:47:47.522+00:002012-02-13T00:47:47.522+00:00Hello Brian,
I feel sorry for the Afanc, perhaps ...Hello Brian,<br /><br />I feel sorry for the Afanc, perhaps he was just mis-understood or had a bad childhood. :-(<br /><br />Sad Phil M.Phil M.noreply@blogger.com